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Nov 11, 2014 07:24 |  #1

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That this kind of rumors I am 99% certain it’s going to become true! According to many of my very best sources Sony is preparing a huge special event in late January early February (right before CP+ (external link)). Unlike (the rather boring) Photokina there will be much more exciting news at CP+. There will be (at least) one new FF E-mount camera with those characteristics:
1) First of a complete new generation of interchangeable Full Frame E-mount camera(s). Which means the tech is redesigned from ground up!
2) Complete new sensors (this means brand new tech and huge bump forward in quality). I hope to get details about that soon but it should have “many” Megapixels.
3) Use of an advanced version of the hybrid A6000 (external link) autofocus system.
4) Unlike the current A7 series this new generation of FF E-mount cameras are made for the very PRO market! Designed to challenge the best DSLR cameras on market like the Nikon D810 (external link) or Canon 5DmarkIII (external link)(on aspects like autofocus, reliability, build quality and features)."


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Nov 11, 2014 07:36 |  #2

Lenses?
Where are the lenses to compete with the big 2?


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Nov 11, 2014 08:20 |  #3

The A7/A7r didn't become a huge success because of Sony lenses. They became a huge success because of everyone else's lenses, which could be adapted to the E-mount.

Add Z-axis movement to the sensor and the camera would be able to quickly AF any lens.

I just hope that Sony has finally worked out how to get as much out of their own sensors as Nikon has.




  
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Nov 11, 2014 08:21 |  #4

No lenses for you, you are only going to shoot Canon right ? :lol:

andrikos wrote in post #17264745 (external link)
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Nov 11, 2014 08:38 |  #5

Shadowblade wrote in post #17264816 (external link)
The A7/A7r didn't become a huge success because of Sony lenses. They became a huge success because of everyone else's lenses, which could be adapted to the E-mount.

Add Z-axis movement to the sensor and the camera would be able to quickly AF any lens.

I just hope that Sony has finally worked out how to get as much out of their own sensors as Nikon has.

My issue with the whole Sony lens ecosystem is how are they going to compete with the big boys in the Pro space.
Given the fact that they barely have any autofocusing telephotos (300mm+) in the first place?


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Nov 11, 2014 08:39 |  #6

In 2015 my hope is to buy a new body, but I just don't know if it will be a new Canon, Sony, or Nikon. The needle just moved in Sony's direction. ;) Should be an exciting year for new gear.


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Nov 11, 2014 08:53 |  #7

Shadowblade wrote in post #17264816 (external link)
Add Z-axis movement to the sensor and the camera would be able to quickly AF any lens.

Just how far would the sensor have to be able to move to cover MFD out to infinity on a wide range of lenses? Are we talking a millimetre or two or 20, 30 or more millimetres?


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Nov 11, 2014 08:55 |  #8

andrikos wrote in post #17264855 (external link)
My issue with the whole Sony lens ecosystem is how are they going to compete with the big boys in the Pro space.
Given the fact that they barely have any autofocusing telephotos (300mm+) in the first place?

Depends what they've managed to do with regards to the Z-axis movement they were talking about a while back.

If they implement that in a camera, you could just stick a Canon or Nikon lens onto that and AF by moving the sensor - probably faster, since there isn't all that heavy glass to move.

That certainly sounds like a much more feasible option than Sony launching a whole lineup of pro-level lenses and expecting everyone to buy them.




  
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Nov 11, 2014 08:58 |  #9

smythie wrote in post #17264879 (external link)
Just how far would the sensor have to be able to move to cover MFD out to infinity on a wide range of lenses? Are we talking a millimetre or two or 20, 30 or more millimetres?

Not very far, once it's moved to the camera's flange distance as a baseline.

i.e. maybe move the baseline to a few different presets (e.g. 44mm for Canon, 46.5mm for Nikon) and AF by moving the sensor a few millimetres in each direction from the preset.




  
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Nov 11, 2014 09:02 |  #10

Shadowblade wrote in post #17264890 (external link)
Not very far, once it's moved to the camera's flange distance as a baseline.

i.e. maybe move the baseline to a few different presets (e.g. 44mm for Canon, 46.5mm for Nikon) and AF by moving the sensor a few millimetres in each direction from the preset.

A few millimeters could be 1000 pixels wide.
Assuming you're using a long telephoto you'd also have to accomplish this in a handful of microseconds without ringing or oscillating.

If they can do that, I'll tip my hat to them...


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Nov 11, 2014 09:05 |  #11

andrikos wrote in post #17264904 (external link)
A few millimeters could be 1000 pixels wide.
Assuming you're using a long telephoto you'd also have to accomplish this in a handful of microseconds without ringing or oscillating.

If they can do that, I'll tip my hat to them...

It's back-and-forth movement, not side-to-side. The effect as seen in the EVF would be that of rotating the focus ring, not panning from side-to-side. Although side-to-side movement would make it even better, since it would add shift capability to any lens with a large enough image circle.




  
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Nov 11, 2014 09:08 |  #12

Shadowblade wrote in post #17264910 (external link)
It's back-and-forth movement, not side-to-side. The effect as seen in the EVF would be that of rotating the focus ring, not panning from side-to-side. Although side-to-side movement would make it even better, since it would add shift capability to any lens with a large enough image circle.

Oh ok, I got that wrong.
Still quite a feat if they can do it.


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Nov 11, 2014 12:37 |  #13

andrikos wrote in post #17264916 (external link)
Oh ok, I got that wrong.
Still quite a feat if they can do it.

Well we know they can do it as sensor shift IS works. And doesn't pentax have the ability to tilt the sensor to level the image? (or am I imagining things).

And back and forth film-plane AF has already been done. Ages ago (with FILM even, lol).

Like i've said before, what I want is an all moving sensor combined w/touch screen.

Click the areas you want to be in focus, the camera then tilts the sensor appropriately. Drag across the screen with a stylus (ala note 3/4 whatever) and the camera adjust the horizon.

Want to go crazy during video and get all tilty-shifty? Go for it, just drag or use some sort of joystick control. Etc. Why isn't this being done already. ^_^


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Nov 11, 2014 12:48 |  #14

Canon is scheduled to have a mirrorless announcement in Feb as well, let's hope they finally get I right this time. They just have to add a EVF and make the focusing faster on the M and that's it!


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Nov 11, 2014 12:58 |  #15

Sweet!! 50 MP sensor?!! Hell yeah!! :D




  
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