7D Mark II Exposure Level Indicator

Ray.Petri wrote in post #17273945
Hi John
I hope the brightness of the vertical metering scale on your 1DX is brighter than the 7D2. I suppose I will just have to get used to it - mind you - I might need an eye operation trying to screw my left eyeball to the right.

As I haven't used a 7D2 yet I couldn't comment.
But yes my right eye is the duff one, and that is the eye I use for photography! The annoying thing is that, despite my cataract, the vision in my right eye is almost 20-20 - but only between 3 and 5 inches!
The above makes me very dependent on on the camera's AF and viewfinder display. I find the 1DX exposure display easy to read but when it come to ISO etc I just have to go by the length of the numbers! Sad isn't it! However, hopefully, I will get operated on soon!

Tom_D wrote in post #17273647
The scale you are talking about at the bottom of the screen the exposure compensation and not an exposure meter. It shows how far above or below the camera calculated exposure you would like the actual exposure to be. It does not appear in manual because the camera is not calculating the exposure, you are setting it manually.

The exposure meter is on the right side of the display and is discussed a bit in this video:

http://learn.usa.canon​.com …s7dmarkii_tutor​ials.shtml

Wow! Just like my Yashica FX-3. I wonder what else it has in common with the 7D2.

My FTb bought in 1973 had an analog meter needle that operated vertically on the right side of the viewfinder.

While reading this thread, I pulled out my 7DII, and looked through the VF for that scale. I put the camera in the M mode, the exposure scale looked clear as a bell. To make the Tic move, I had to put the ISO in Auto, but I did see how it works in M mode. I'm not really sure why this would be a deal breaker. I would like to see a published book on this camera, and not just what is on the enclosed CD. I did download the Canon Manual, and took it to a printer, the 500+ page manual would cost over $300.00 to print and bind.

There's a reason why Canon doesn't send a hardcopy with each camera...
Besides, witnesses here state that many of them still have the user's manual wrapped in the original plastic when they get rid of the camera.

You aren't comfortable with reading it on the screen?

Bill/Apersson

I downloaded and printed the 500 page manual before I got the camera - very thick and heavy on 80gm A4 paper. Printing A4 double sided makes it easy to read - I get very frustrated trying to read on-line manuals.
I have not opened the sealed book either - just in case I return it - although that is the last thing I want to do. I await comment from Canon to see whether they are going to do anything about this problem.
I remember when the 24-105mmL first hit the shelves it had a lens flare problem. They modified this and sent me a new lens.

All those people telling you the 1D bodies had this for forever so it must be fine please note there are no APS-C 1D bodies. Perhaps this problem is an effect of the smaller viewfinder? For sure I have no problem with my 1dx or 1d4 but having no 7d2 cannot comment on the difference.

well it is small but I have no problem seeing it, non at all I only shoot manual too so need to see it.

Rob.

Neilyb wrote in post #17274770
All those people telling you the 1D bodies had this for forever so it must be fine please note there are no APS-C 1D bodies. Perhaps this problem is an effect of the smaller viewfinder? For sure I have no problem with my 1dx or 1d4 but having no 7d2 cannot comment on the difference.

I would think the smaller viewfinder would make it easier to see as you don't have to look as far to the right to see it.

Of course there are no APS-C 1D bodies, most of the people who are making comments about it think this is a new thing unique to the 7D2 and don't realize it is on Canon's flagship line as well.

Tom_D wrote in post #17273647
The scale you are talking about at the bottom of the screen the exposure compensation and not an exposure meter. It shows how far above or below the camera calculated exposure you would like the actual exposure to be. It does not appear in manual because the camera is not calculating the exposure, you are setting it manually.

The exposure meter is on the right side of the display and is discussed a bit in this video:

http://learn.usa.canon​.com …s7dmarkii_tutor​ials.shtml

I was kind of wondering about this. I realize the scale is there to tell me how much to compensate but how can't it not be a meter or indicate what the exposure meter is telling you?

In AV the meter always defaults to the centre and picks the shutter speed for you based on ISO and Aperture. I just did a random test with my 5D. @ 12,800 and F4.5 = 1/1250.

I switched to M and made adjustments so the meter was centred and I got 12,800, f4.5 and 1/1250.

Is it not a meter that when centred gives you a basic 18% grey card reading of the scene it is interpreting? Obviously in manual you calculate your own but both exposures were identical.

digital paradise wrote in post #17274960
but how can't it not be a meter or indicate what the exposure meter is telling you?

It's not measuring (metering) anything, it's simply an indicator of the EC you've dialed in.

digital paradise wrote in post #17274960
I just did a random test with my 5D.

5D? We are discussing the 7D2 exposure compensation and meter display in the viewfinder.

Tom_D wrote in post #17274995
5D? We are discussing the 7D2 exposure compensation and meter display in the viewfinder.

Isn't it the same thing? There is still a scale on the right side of the 7D2. I currently don't have my 7D2 so I pulled out my 5D3.

I was thinking about the smaller viewfinder may be an issue too, but I haven't had the chance to look into any 7D Mark II yet, so I have no clue. The display/meter to the right has been no issue on my cameras having that feature, but they've all been 24*36 mm format.

What I find a little odd is that even though Canon put the meter on the right where the 1 series bodies have it, when using live view it's on the bottom like it always was. Of course having never owned a 1 series that had live view for all I know the current 1 series have it on the bottom of the LCD in live view as well. It is a bit of a bummer that the meter no longer shows in the top LCD when in manual though.