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Feb 22, 2006 10:39 |  #1

was all set to get the 17-40 f4 L then up pops the new ef-s is 17-55 2.8
now this has really thrown me. ok the L lens should be sharper but by how much , also like the faster aperture of the 17-55 and IS,and does anyone have any idea on the price/availability(whe​n will it be on the shelves in britain) of the 17-55?

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Feb 22, 2006 10:44 |  #2

i've found the 17-40 only shines at f/5.6 ish and above....below that its a bit soft. at least mine is anyway.


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Feb 22, 2006 10:45 |  #3

Wow, that didn't take long and the 17-55 isn't even out yet.:D I think I would wait and see some of the tests, before making a decision, on the other hand if you are willing to pay 1200 bucks, there may be something better to compare, like 24-105 or 24-70. You have 18-24 covered with your kit lens and I honestly can't see much if any image quality difference in that range, with the L and the kit lens.




  
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Feb 22, 2006 10:49 |  #4

yes looked at the 24-40 and 24-105 both look exceptonal lenses though i need a slightly wider lens(photograph canal barges)only got the kit lens at moment for the angle i need and the 17-40 seems to be the ideal range i need


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Feb 22, 2006 10:51 as a reply to  @ philbyuk's post |  #5

Wait for some of the reviews to make your decision.


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Feb 22, 2006 10:55 |  #6

Cactus is right, we'll have to wait and see some independent tests first, but on paper at least it looks like a great lens. I've been tempted by the 17-40 before but on balance decided to keep my 17-85 as optical performance is very similar but the extra range and IS of the 17-85 swung it for me over the better build but smaller focal range/lack of IS of the 17-40. The 17-55 on the other hand looks like a cracker, decent range, IS, constant f2.8 and optically a very high performer, only time will tell on the optical performance side but if it lives up to expectations I will definately be replacing my 17-85 with one. However this isn't going to happen until May at the very earliest and UK price (as far as I'm aware) has not been announced but suffice to say it's going to be more than the 17-40. I'd guess at around £750 - £800, but it's just a guess.




  
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Feb 22, 2006 10:55 |  #7

A cheap solution, would be to get a lens hood for the kit lens. You may want to go and take some test shots at a store with a 17-40 and the kit lens. My experiece was that I couldn't see the L difference at the wide end. The only problem with the kit lens is that it flares easily, but a hood helps with that. Good luck.




  
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Feb 22, 2006 11:46 |  #8

yes i agree, wait for it to be released first before spending time to make your decision. youre not going to get any accurate info right now to sway your decision other than perhaps price




  
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Feb 22, 2006 12:21 |  #9

I heard from a lil birdie just right now about this damn lens. I recently even cover my 17-35 range w/ the tamron from eBay. Damn it. What to do ... what to do... (sell the 28-75 and 17-35???)

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Feb 22, 2006 20:22 |  #10

here's an initial review of it: http://www.the-digital-picture.com …8-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)


do you guys think IS is even necessary for a lens with such a short focal length and fast 2.8 aperture?


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Feb 22, 2006 21:09 |  #11

philbyuk wrote:
was all set to get the 17-40 f4 L then up pops the new ef-s is 17-55 2.8
now this has really thrown me. ok the L lens should be sharper but by how much , also like the faster aperture of the 17-55 and IS,and does anyone have any idea on the price/availability(whe​n will it be on the shelves in britain) of the 17-55?

decisions decisions

Noone knows anything about the sharpness or even useability of this lens.


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Feb 22, 2006 21:39 |  #12

i was just thinking the same thing, and decided to go with the 17-40, read my reasons in this thread
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=140479


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Feb 23, 2006 04:48 as a reply to  @ cactusclay's post |  #13

cactusclay wrote:
Wow, that didn't take long and the 17-55 isn't even out yet.:D I think I would wait and see some of the tests, before making a decision, on the other hand if you are willing to pay 1200 bucks, there may be something better to compare, like 24-105 or 24-70. You have 18-24 covered with your kit lens and I honestly can't see much if any image quality difference in that range, with the L and the kit lens.

I've found that I take 60-62% of my images with 17-40/4L, which raises my interest for zooms in 17-55mm focal range.
In winter scenes (at least above tree level in alps) falls short on tele end and in events f4 is limiting factor. One solution for this problem would be Tamron's 28-75/2.8, but if I can have it "all" in one lens (17-55/2.8 IS) at cheaper price than those two combined, then it just might be worth it to buy EF-S lens.
Anyway, I'll be waiting to see how Canon's 17-55/2.8 IS and Tamron's new 17-50/2.8 will perform in people's tests, before I buy f2.8 zoom and put my 17-40/4L for sale. With this in mind, I will probably have to wait until August/September timeframe. If I have to make my mind before that (due to some event, where I need faster lens ,etc.), I'll probably go for two lens solution (17-40/4L + 28-75/2.8).


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May 12, 2006 09:40 |  #14

i say if youre gonna dis out the 1200USD for the 17-55 you should just buy the 16-35. Its L Glass, and shoot its EF...so if you do go full frame...you got one monster of a lens.


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May 12, 2006 10:11 as a reply to  @ motion_projekt's post |  #15

motion_projekt wrote:
i say if youre gonna dis out the 1200USD for the 17-55 you should just buy the 16-35. Its L Glass, and shoot its EF...so if you do go full frame...you got one monster of a lens.

Check the Photozone resolution charts for both lenses. The performance of the 17-55, plus the fact it has IS, plus the fact it has an extra 20mm on the long end make it a no brainer IMHO for a crop body user over the 16-35. If I ever switched to full frame I would be confident of being able to sell any EF-S lenses in my bag at minimal loss on Ebay...




  
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