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Anybody waiting for the Canon 7D Mark II?

 
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Nov 21, 2014 08:21 |  #16

I can tell you, ..there is no comparison of the two,...7D and the mark II, they share a name and concept but nothing else, they are totally unlike one another, anyone who waited did it because of the money. If your waiting for problems to be resolved don't there aren't any. When I first got my 7D I hated it, there had to be something wrong with it right mmmmmm. Nope ALL ME period. They all need to just get out there and learn to shoot there new camera. Just my two cents.


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Nov 21, 2014 08:26 |  #17

bx338 wrote in post #17284977 (external link)
I had one on pre-order from MPB as an exchange for some equipment i was selling.
They sent a courier to collect the items for sale, we agreed a price and was told delivery of my 7d2 would be first week in November, that came and went, a phone call confirmed it would be the next week (guaranteed) when i heard nothing that week i got an email saying it might not even be in November as they are waiting for stock and nowhere in the country has any ?
At this point i requested all the items i was exchanging to be returned to me and the deal we had agreed was cancelled.
as of today 21/11/14 they still cant supply me with a 7d2, which i am quite pleased about looking at the expanding reports of this new model having focusing problems.

Expanding reports? where?


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Nov 21, 2014 13:37 |  #18

Hi Keyan.
Its in the 7D mk2 Focus issues section.




  
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Nov 21, 2014 15:33 |  #19

hollis_f wrote in post #17283147 (external link)
Only time will tell. When the big online retailers aren't selling many at the RRP then they will start dropping it to a more realistic price. But as long as the supply of morons (or people who really need one now; or people buying with somebody else's money) doesn't dry up then they'll carry on making as much profit as possible - and who can blame them.

I would imagine that most people who pre-ordered would have done so through one of the online vendors, which is why your local bricks 'n' mortar store still has one.

Morons? Really?


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Nov 21, 2014 16:30 |  #20

SixDeeFan wrote in post #17285796 (external link)
Morons? Really?

Not quite certain about the "Morons" comment but I would certainly wait 4 to 6 months before buying a just introduced camera. I am happy to let others work out the bugs, for Canon to sort the firmware and for the price to drop significantly. Sounds a bit like common sense to me.


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Nov 21, 2014 17:10 |  #21

SixDeeFan wrote in post #17285796 (external link)
Morons? Really?

What word would you use to describe somebody who pays 20% extra for a camera that they don't actually need now when they could save so much money by waiting a few months?


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Nov 21, 2014 17:33 |  #22

I bought my 7D two years ago - late adopter. Upgraded from the 40D.

The new camera had impressive specs, but I honestly didn't expect a dramatic change in the pics.

But after using it for a few months, I realized that my keeper rate had improved quite a bit. Now admittedly that might not be 100% due to the new camera, but I think it contributed significantly.

So then I wondered why I hadn't bought it earlier, to be able to enjoy the benefits of the better body 3 years longer.

Well, one learns from experiences. At least I try to. So I have pre-ordered a 7D2. It is definitely an improved body. The store expects it to be in in 1 or 2 weeks.

One justification for the relative haste is that I'm off to sunny Florida in January, and I might as well have the best gear for all the photo opportunities there (especially birds and bugs, that the 7D2 is well suited for). If it were not for this trip, I would have waited a bit ... but not that much, because we are going to Maui in March!

I've got the cash, might as well use it. Only a moron wouldn't.


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Nov 21, 2014 19:40 |  #23

hollis_f wrote in post #17285924 (external link)
What word would you use to describe somebody who pays 20% extra for a camera that they don't actually need now when they could save so much money by waiting a few months?

Certainly not "moron". Sounds very righteous and judgmental. Perhaps enthusiast, fan, or early adapter? It will sell for $360.00 less in a few months? Doubtful. Unless by few you mean a couple years...


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Nov 22, 2014 02:06 |  #24

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It will sell for $360.00 less in a few months? Doubtful. Unless by few you mean a couple years...

Would you like to make a small wager? I'll bet you that the UK price drops by £225 ($360) by March.


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Nov 22, 2014 06:15 |  #25

OK, that site looks a little wacked. It looks like they even stole the look of canonrumors.com.

I handled a 7D Mark II in the camera shop last weekend. It was totally nice for sure, the AF rather wicked. The build was quite robust, I can really see why "Baby 1Dx" comes to mind. The menu system was very different than the 7D, but one could see how it worked.

And my shop even had a supply of them. At $1800 though, the stronger AF and build is just not enough reason to buy, over a 70D for me, the IQ being otherwise closely related. Also, the 7D Mark II feature mix is exactly opposite what I like on the 70D. I rather enjoy WiFi, the articulating screen, and touch. If money were no object, of course I'd buy two 7D Mark II's; but given that right now my foto work needs to pay 100% for the proverbial GAS, the 70D is a truly compelling value.

4 years after getting my 7D twins, my reaction to the 7D Mark II has been: meh.


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Nov 22, 2014 07:16 |  #26

hollis_f wrote in post #17286506 (external link)
Would you like to make a small wager? I'll bet you that the UK price drops by £225 ($360) by March.

The regular price won't drop by anywhere near that much...occasional SALE price, maybe.


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Nov 22, 2014 08:22 |  #27

SixDeeFan wrote in post #17286693 (external link)
The regular price won't drop by anywhere near that much...occasional SALE price, maybe.

Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough -
UK Price


Every single new release in the UK follows the same pattern - on release all the major retailers (and, as far as I can tell, all the minor retailers) charge the manufacturer's Recommended Retail Price (RRP). This is quite a way above the price they will charge after a few months - but they know that there are three groups of people who will pay above the odds for a chance to be the first on the block with the nice shiny new toy.

After a while sales slow down as those willing to pay extra have already got their new toy. That's when there's a sudden drop in the prices they charge - until they're all charging something around 80% of the RRP. Then there's a slower decline in prices as a product ages.

Just check out how the 70D's price has changed since release - LINK (external link).

i know the same thing doesn't happen in the US. That's probably because you don't have just a small number of retailers that control the majority of the market. But we in the UK do.


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Nov 22, 2014 09:15 |  #28

hollis_f wrote in post #17286793 (external link)
Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough -
UK Price


Every single new release in the UK follows the same pattern - on release all the major retailers (and, as far as I can tell, all the minor retailers) charge the manufacturer's Recommended Retail Price (RRP). This is quite a way above the price they will charge after a few months - but they know that there are three groups of people who will pay above the odds for a chance to be the first on the block with the nice shiny new toy.

After a while sales slow down as those willing to pay extra have already got their new toy. That's when there's a sudden drop in the prices they charge - until they're all charging something around 80% of the RRP. Then there's a slower decline in prices as a product ages.

Just check out how the 70D's price has changed since release - LINK (external link).

i know the same thing doesn't happen in the US. That's probably because you don't have just a small number of retailers that control the majority of the market. But we in the UK do.

I have not doubt you are correct. Most prices drop over a period of time. I'm in Canada and don't order from the UK. Almost all of my purchases have been from one online store and in all cases, including my 7D2 body, the introductory sale price has been lower than the MSRP. Not by a large amount but enough of a difference to put the price in my comfort zone and tip the scales in favour of making the purchase.

So, for me, being an early adopter has worked well. Lucky so far I guess.

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Nov 22, 2014 10:29 |  #29

hollis_f wrote in post #17286793 (external link)
Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough -
UK Price


Every single new release in the UK follows the same pattern - on release all the major retailers (and, as far as I can tell, all the minor retailers) charge the manufacturer's Recommended Retail Price (RRP). This is quite a way above the price they will charge after a few months - but they know that there are three groups of people who will pay above the odds for a chance to be the first on the block with the nice shiny new toy.

After a while sales slow down as those willing to pay extra have already got their new toy. That's when there's a sudden drop in the prices they charge - until they're all charging something around 80% of the RRP. Then there's a slower decline in prices as a product ages.

Just check out how the 70D's price has changed since release - LINK (external link).

i know the same thing doesn't happen in the US. That's probably because you don't have just a small number of retailers that control the majority of the market. But we in the UK do.

Remember the original 5D? I waited about 6 months to buy mine, the price had dropped by over 30%.


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Nov 22, 2014 19:13 |  #30

Everyone new camera released have focus issues according to the internet. Its not like people need to get used to a totally new AF system


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