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Nov 28, 2014 21:15 |  #1

I saw a thread that pointing about 7d mark ii has a focus issue,
But in the other side, in another thread '7d mark ii owners unite' i saw almost all photo's on that thread a looks amazing and sharp.
The question is, where's a bad focusing system ? Where's a focus issue,.? I didn't see any focusing issue on that baby ..




  
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Nov 28, 2014 21:16 |  #2

There seems to be some bad or misaligned focus modules.


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Nov 28, 2014 21:19 |  #3

2n10 wrote in post #17298595 (external link)
There seems to be some bad or misaligned focus modules.

Do you mean some people had they 7d mark ii with bad focusing, but some other had a good copy ? So what a gamble is this ?




  
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Nov 28, 2014 21:35 |  #4

I would say it is no worse than any camera. Many are having troubles with the camera due to the AF learning curve. I know I was one.


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Nov 28, 2014 22:56 |  #5

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I would say it is no worse than any camera. Many are having troubles with the camera due to the AF learning curve. I know I was one.

Agreed. The 7d2 AF is quite different from that in most previous Canon cameras. It takes some time and some active thinking to sort out as well as (probably) some changes in working methods. I suspect that's where most of the complaints originate. Actual defective cameras are probably pretty rare and, I imagine, Canon will be eager to repair of replace them.


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Nov 29, 2014 05:10 |  #6

I found the images lacking detail and returned my 7D2 for a refund, and I could have used the camera blindfolded coming from a 5D3 - so I don't think it has to do with any AF learning curve. Stopped down static photos produced lack of detail.


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Nov 29, 2014 07:11 |  #7

Several people had problems with their new 7D. However, once you eliminated those who hadn't read (or understood) the manual; and those who thought that printing their image 5 foot wide and examining it with a magnifying glass was a good way to check IQ; and those who thought that a black cat, at night, in a cave, 50m away, was a suitable test subject; then there weren't many cases left. Some of these sent their cameras off to Canon who never, ever, recognised a common problem. Indeed most just had the AF recalibrated.

Then exactly the same happened with the 70D.

And the 7D MkII.


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Nov 29, 2014 08:37 |  #8

hollis_f wrote in post #17299099 (external link)
Several people had problems with their new 7D. However, once you eliminated those who hadn't read (or understood) the manual; and those who thought that printing their image 5 foot wide and examining it with a magnifying glass was a good way to check IQ; and those who thought that a black cat, at night, in a cave, 50m away, was a suitable test subject; then there weren't many cases left. Some of these sent their cameras off to Canon who never, ever, recognised a common problem. Indeed most just had the AF recalibrated.

Then exactly the same happened with the 70D.

And the 7D MkII.

And those who never bothered with MA :)

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Nov 29, 2014 08:48 |  #9

Well, my issue is Ai Servo. Get one very sharp pic, then several in sequence just a bit off. No I did not MA, never did it on any Canon body prior with no issue.

I tried single shot and naturally that is fine. So, I'll try a few more on Ai Servo, but will move from center pt expansion back to using just single point to see if that helps. I had the 5d3 and am familiar with the cases and settings. With a suggestion from Methodical, I slowed the tracking even more so we'll see how it goes.


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Nov 29, 2014 08:54 |  #10

And some people that have reported issues with some 3rd party lenses as compared to Canon lenses they may also own.




  
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Nov 29, 2014 09:00 |  #11

There are so many 7DII threads with hundreds of responses discussing the points your asking. It would help to read them first.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1397980
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1397935
https://photography-on-the.net …t=1406704&highl​ight=focus


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Nov 29, 2014 09:48 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #12

Clearly hating this new camera can't seem to crop more than 400% or so.

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Nov 29, 2014 10:25 |  #13

GyRob wrote in post #17299202 (external link)
And those who never bothered with MA :)

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MFA was not designed to compensate for sloppy manufacturing. It was designed to tweak your system to get the most out of it. If someone wants to MFA + or - 15 to get it to focus correctly that is a personal choice and their is nothing wrong with that. Personally - although it is a valuable tool I think it makes it easier for the manufacturer to let their guard down.

So no, there are no problems with the camera design itself that a tune up won't fix, be it you doing it yourself or Canon doing it for you. There are a lot of outstanding images being posted but there are some not so crisp ones as well. That could be from many reasons but if you keep it simple (single or expanded AF), choose an appropriate shutter speed for the situation, use good glass and you are steady there is no reason anyone can't get great images right out of the box. This is of course assuming the lens is not way out.


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Nov 29, 2014 10:30 |  #14

I base that last bit on my 5D3. Within an hour I was nailing shots with very little effort and my keeper rate is about 95% since 2012. The AF system is identical and I understand that you need to be more careful due to the sensor size and how many pixels they packed on the 7D2. I had a 7D for 5 years.


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Nov 29, 2014 11:32 |  #15

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I base that last bit on my 5D3. Within an hour I was nailing shots with very little effort and my keeper rate is about 95% since 2012. The AF system is identical and I understand that you need to be more careful due to the sensor size and how many pixels they packed on the 7D2. I had a 7D for 5 years.

Totally concur


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