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Feb 27, 2015 10:27 |  #166

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I've a couple of questions if you don't mind;

I've only used my camera a couple of times at 10 FPS; it seemed each time that the initial shot wasn't as sharp as the subsequent shots in the sequence. Would I be correct in assuming this is what you are referring to here, instead of me just jamming down on the shutter button?

Secondly, does using silent shooting also further minimise mirror slap?

Can't help on the second one as I haven't used the silent mode - it's already pretty quiet.

The mirror slap comes into play at lower shutter speeds generally used with subjects not moving or "lower" shutter speeds for moving objects (around 1/1000). In this case, I was referring to low shutter speed, natural light portraits. I think what you are seeing is something I struggled with and had to learn. The camera likes to track a moving object for a split second before you take the shot - this gives the camera time to analyze the movements and begin formulating a tracking base. I went through the same issue before figuring that out. If you can give the camera time to lock on and start predicting BEFORE the first shot, that first shot will be in focus too.

I have dialed my 7d2 back to 8 FPS and have also dialed my 1DX back to 10.


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Feb 27, 2015 10:34 |  #167

My 85F1.8 needs at least 1/135 on a crop or 1/85 on full frame. This is a minimum for a short telephoto.
It is one reason I generally used shorter lenses indoors on crop bodies. For action shots, it needs much higher shutter speeds.
I prefer one shot AF for portraits, and hate to use multi-shot AF, unless there is a real need.
However, the 7DII was designed for speed, and that is another story.
I would be very upset if I had so much trouble with AF on a new camera, and so I am not surprised at the posts. Frankly, I think that most posters with AF problems have been more than reasonable, actually too reasonable.
I have an IMac upstairs that died on me at about 12 1/2 months. There were hardware and software problems. I did manage to get it fixed under warranty, but it didn't take 4 tries. I wouldn't be back that many times, but that is just me. This sounds like the problems I had with an old Dodge Aries, but that is a very different story. It was the last Dodge I bought.




  
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Feb 27, 2015 15:42 |  #168

WaterBoy2090 wrote in post #17452320 (external link)
I've a couple of questions if you don't mind;

I've only used my camera a couple of times at 10 FPS; it seemed each time that the initial shot wasn't as sharp as the subsequent shots in the sequence. Would I be correct in assuming this is what you are referring to here, instead of me just jamming down on the shutter button?

Secondly, does using silent shooting also further minimise mirror slap?

I have noticed this behaviour too, first shot off, subsequent shots on the money.

Will try and hold back on the shutter next time I am out and see if the first in a sequence can also be good.


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Feb 27, 2015 21:26 |  #169

Thanks for the replies and info; I just knew it had to be me! :oops:


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Feb 28, 2015 06:38 |  #170

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Mar 07, 2015 01:31 |  #171

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Here is my most recent update.

On February 6th, the customer service representative told me that the technicians could not find anything wrong with my camera. I asked for test shots, taken by the lab and in the field, to be sent to me with exif data intact. The customer service representative said he would put in that request. On February 13th, I called the service representative to ask him where my images were. He said that the lab had still not sent them. I said,

"It is my impression that you are merely reading a script of preset things to say to placate angry customers. I am sure you are a nice guy but I'm pissed. I have owned this camera since the day it released and it has spent more time in your facility than in my hands. If this would have been a car, it would have been labeled a lemon by now and a new car given. I fully believe the reason the lab has not sent the images requested yet is because they cannot produce images any better than the ones I sent in. At this point, I deserve nothing less than a brand new camera shipped directly to me, next day delivery."

He said that in order to send a new camera, that they had to be able to find an issue with the camera I had sent in. They are unable to recreate my issues and he would just have them send my camera back next day delivery and it would be here on Saturday February 14th.

I then told him that when the camera arrived, I would test it in every manner available. I would then take it to my college photography teacher who has been shooting for 30 years and have him test it every way possible. If the camera still showed the same performance, I would sell every canon product I owned and switch to nikon or sony, as well as spend the rest of my life telling every single person I meet what a SH***Y camera canon is and what SH***Y service canon provides and how bad they ****ed me over.

He said yes mam, I understand.

I hung up and was shaking I was so mad.

The camera did not come Saturday. This morning I called back up there and talked to my customer service rep to find out why. He said "hmm, it should have come, let me call you back." He calls me back about 20 minutes later and tells me that the lab did find something wrong with my camera. The "mirror box" had a malfunction and a part had to be ordered. I sort of loudly stated, "Thank goodness!! Im not crazy!!"

I then told him that they could keep the unit they currently had as I am requesting a brand new factory sealed unit to be sent to me immediately. He sort of stuttered over how to respond so I told him, "per our conversation Friday, you stated that she only way for me to get a new unit was for them to find something else wrong with it, which would essentially mean it was just a bad unit. This camera has now been in four times and is now having the second thing replaced in order to "make it work" which means it was defective straight out of the box. I did not pay $2000 for a defective product and want a new unit shipped to me next day."

He said the lab was not open so he could not make contact with them today to figure out what to do. I told him I had already told him what he was going to do, which was send me a new unit to replace the reject he sent me. He said he would have to talk to his supervisors in the facility he is at and he would be in touch with me by this afternoon.

If I haven't heard from him by 4pm, I will call back. And may god have mercy on his soul if he tells me they have not already mailed me a brand new factory sealed unit.

But it wasn't me, it was the camera!!

I'm glad you resolved this and you discovered it was not your technique.


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Apr 04, 2015 23:08 |  #172

This camera works. All my lenses have to be micro adjusted though. That's sort of annoying. I wish I had gone with the 1D though. I don't think I'll ever be truly happy with all the quirks about this camera.


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Apr 04, 2015 23:16 as a reply to  @ ScPhotoMom's post |  #173

That's good to hear that this camera is better. I had been following this thread and had wondered how it was going for you. Care to post an image or two that you are happy with (for comparison sake)?


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Apr 05, 2015 06:20 |  #174

On all the 1ds I have owned I have had to micro adjust all my lenses as well. It is not a guarantee that a higher end body won't need the same attention. Lenses and bodies together make a system and sometimes they need adjusted together.


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Jul 03, 2015 14:56 |  #175

Sorry its been so long since I checked in. Been in the process finals, then house hunting and then packing and we still have the move to go.

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Jul 03, 2015 15:01 as a reply to  @ ScPhotoMom's post |  #177

They look good! Are you happy with the camera?


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Jul 03, 2015 15:08 |  #179

Each one of my lenses did require micro adjustment for me to get the best out of them


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Jul 03, 2015 15:59 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #180

Yes I am happy with this new camera and now that everything is adjusted, i like the images I am getting. I would say that my only complaint about the camera is that it just doesn't handle shots taken under a 1/200th shutter speed like I would like to see, but Ive learned to compensate for it.


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