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Jan 02, 2015 20:15 |  #181

smythie wrote in post #17362694 (external link)
one of the good things about the U modes on the mode dial - you can set one specifically for remote shooting :D

Excellent idea...I'm not there yet. :oops:


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Jan 04, 2015 17:05 |  #182

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Excellent idea...I'm not there yet. :oops:

Great idea! Honestly I don't get a lot of use out of those 'U' modes.

I use my cell phone or tablet as a tethered remote with the wifi!


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Jan 04, 2015 20:32 |  #183

Sold off all my canon gear today, and picked up a d750. Lots to learn, way more customizable options and everything than my 6d. So far I'm loving it though! Can't wait to really test this thing out


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Jan 04, 2015 21:13 |  #184

Welcome. Enjoy


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Jan 05, 2015 11:26 |  #185

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I was not "blown away" by the AF system in the D750. Not even close. Granted, I came from the 5D3, which actually blows away the AF system in the 6D or the 5D2.

You have to remember, only the center columns are cross type points. The outer parts are not even close to being as good as the ones on the 5D3. You need lots of contrast and in the right direction in order for the outer AF points to lock focus.

Sufficient, is how I would put it. There's no magic bullet. It's still about technique and knowing what settings to use when, etc.


I was referring to the OP who came from a 6D, which has a lame autofocus system. The only place the 5dIII beats the D750 is on autofocus where you are using the outer focus points. But it will do better in low light and dark focusing because it has focus assist and the Canon does not. Keep in mind the 5D III costs a thousand dollars more than the D750 and for that thousand bucks you only get better autofocusing using the outer points. If that feature is worth a thousand bucks to you then by all means go for one.


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Jan 06, 2015 20:41 |  #186

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I was referring to the OP who came from a 6D, which has a lame autofocus system. The only place the 5dIII beats the D750 is on autofocus where you are using the outer focus points. But it will do better in low light and dark focusing because it has focus assist and the Canon does not. Keep in mind the 5D III costs a thousand dollars more than the D750 and for that thousand bucks you only get better autofocusing using the outer points. If that feature is worth a thousand bucks to you then by all means go for one.

Whether or not those outer points are worth the extra money depends on need. If you are a focus+recompose type of shooter or aren't shooting any action, then quite honestly, the 5D2 would be good enough in the AF department. I see the 5D3 in a different tier than the D750 relative to the brand. The D750 clearly is meant to be a lower tiered camera. 1/4000 max shutter speed and SD cards are perfect examples. It's much more in line with the 6D in terms of where it sits in the product line. Don't get me wrong. It's a GREAT camera considering where it stands in the Nikon food chain. Tremendous when you consider it may actually have a better AF system than the D4s. But I think that's pretty sad in a way. Nikon's stuck with the same AF formula for far too long. It's time to reconsider the AF layout.

I shot with the 5D3 for a few years. It's a great camera. My only reason for switching yet again to Nikon was the D810 and it's resolution. I was originally thinking about getting 2 of those, but decided that the D750, with its emphasis on user friendliness (articulating LCD, smaller form factor, wireless) might be a fun second camera to have, and I was right. It's a fun camera to use. Ironically, it's a much more fun camera to use than the D810.

Not knocking the Nikon AF system, but let's face it, the center column only arrangement of crosstype points is getting pretty dated.




  
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Jan 06, 2015 21:57 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #187

So lets see from nikon an all cross type in every point and an eight way - double cross type center focus active at all f stops, that would be Bench mark;-)a:-P

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Jan 06, 2015 22:13 |  #188

That'd be very nice but at the very least I'd like to see similar on-paper specs (cross type sensitivity and such) to Canon's best (1DX and 7D2), preferably something better. The face detection on the D4s, D810 and D750 is already a step up on Canon however


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Jan 07, 2015 10:46 |  #189

nicksan wrote in post #17369854 (external link)
The D750 clearly is meant to be a lower tiered camera. 1/4000 max shutter speed and SD cards are perfect examples. It's much more in line with the 6D in terms of where it sits in the product line.

Not really, the D610 is the main competition for the 6D. The D750 sits clearly between the D610/6D and the D810/5D3 camera's. While the 1/4000 shutter speed and SD slots are similar to the 6D, the AF system of the D750 is far superior to the 6D's, and this is what places the D750 in between the 6D and 5D3, both in overall performance and cost. As far as over all performance and features are concerned, I feel that the D750 lies in between these two Canon camera's, slightly more towards the 5D3; I feel confident with this statement having owned a 5D3 and two 6D's.

The 5D3 has better features than the D750 and 6D; those two outside blocks of cross-type AF points come to mind first and the 1/8000 shutter speed was nice to have when needed. IQ wise, I would put the D750 ahead of both the 6D and 5D3.




  
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Jan 07, 2015 17:36 |  #190

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Fail! Not in stock! Looks like I either but a used one or wait to get something else. It's just such an essential focal range for me. :-x


Weird, Yodobashi seems to have plenty in stock. I'm regretting not buying it.


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Jan 07, 2015 17:41 |  #191

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Weird, Yodobashi seems to have plenty in stock. I'm regretting not buying it.


I JUST got one delivered tonight. I bought it used and the only thing I can say is - Yay for me! :-D

It is SHARP the OS is awesome and the focal range is great on FF. woohoo!!!


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Jan 07, 2015 20:03 |  #192

JBlake wrote in post #17370644 (external link)
Not really, the D610 is the main competition for the 6D. The D750 sits clearly between the D610/6D and the D810/5D3 camera's. While the 1/4000 shutter speed and SD slots are similar to the 6D, the AF system of the D750 is far superior to the 6D's, and this is what places the D750 in between the 6D and 5D3, both in overall performance and cost. As far as over all performance and features are concerned, I feel that the D750 lies in between these two Canon camera's, slightly more towards the 5D3; I feel confident with this statement having owned a 5D3 and two 6D's.

The 5D3 has better features than the D750 and 6D; those two outside blocks of cross-type AF points come to mind first and the 1/8000 shutter speed was nice to have when needed. IQ wise, I would put the D750 ahead of both the 6D and 5D3.

It's difficult to slot the D750. It is a unique camera in a sense that it has a better AF system than the flagship D4s. (At least that's what I read since I don't own a D4s...but not hard to imagine given the same AF layout) There are definitely some consumer features, but I actually love the articulating screen and the wireless. It definitely has a cool/fun factor to it as opposed to cameras like the 5D3 and D810. I think the resolution is perfect for something like wedding photography. The IQ is there. I like the smaller form factor.

I guess all I am saying is the AF layout is kinda getting tiring. They really haven't done anything major. Seems like they've just continued to tweak the existing one. I remember when I bought the Canon 1DMKIII. I was was floored with all the cross type points. The 5D3 was a significant upgrade in AF from the 5D2. SIGNIFICANT. I mean, sure, the 5D2 was THAT bad. Haha. Still, it was a major upgrade.

Perhaps you can make an argument that Nikon doesn't need to do such things because the AF system is strong already or that's it's good enough. Perhaps I have become spoiled with having all those crosstype points. Not sure.

Just wait and see I guess...In the meantime, I'll enjoy my Nikon cameras!




  
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Jan 07, 2015 21:10 |  #193

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Perhaps you can make an argument that Nikon doesn't need to do such things because the AF system is strong already or that's it's good enough. Perhaps I have become spoiled with having all those crosstype points. Not sure.

Nikon does need to expand the cross-type AF points from 15 to 51, not sure what they are waiting for. Hopefully we will see something like that in the next generation of Nikon camera; D7200/D9300, D760 and or D820.

Why did Canon not make all of the AF points on the 5d3 cross-type? Why did they leave these strange columns of 5 AF points, all four of them, as linear type? Why did Canon not give the 6D 11 cross-type AF points instead of just one? As far as the 6D goes, Canon really botched that decision. I know several people who went with the D600 or D610, only because they wanted more than one cross-type AF point, they said they would had gone with the 6D if it had more than the one Cross-type AF point. I think Canon lost some sales over that one.




  
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Jan 07, 2015 21:16 |  #194

I agree. The 6D was a head scratcher in some ways. A lot of people also hoped the 5D2 would have a better AF system when it came out years ago. Nope. So yes, took them a while.

I think if Nikon can reformulate the AF system it will be totally kick ass.




  
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Jan 07, 2015 21:41 |  #195

I still think its that center focus point that should be concentrated on, as i said earlier make it an eight point focus system just like two overlaid crosses, and available from f8 and wider not as most are now f5.6 and wider, that would make it available for all lenses not just fast ones, and yes make more outer lying points cross type at the same time, just in case you use Dynamic or 3D etc.

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