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Dec 01, 2014 16:06 |  #1

Hi all,

My screen is calibrated with a spyder 3 but when I get prints from my local processing place they are all a stop or so dark.

I supose the simple answer would be to turn the brightness down on my monitor so it matches the print but that would seem a compromise on everything else on the monitor. Any suggestions?


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Dec 01, 2014 16:17 |  #2

No, that's right. Turning down the screen brightness is exactly what you have to do.

Which Spyder3 is it?


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Dec 01, 2014 21:11 |  #3

Agree with Damien. I used a Spyder 3 Pro for years and it does not have the ability to adjust luminance. You need to manually turn down screen brightness.

To give you an idea as to how much, I had to turn down my Dell 2209WA from the stock 60+% to 15%.


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Dec 02, 2014 02:23 |  #4

Thanks chaps Ill give that a go. It sounds like it might compromise everything else (movie watching etc)

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Dec 02, 2014 02:47 as a reply to  @ Aspock's post |  #5

Which Spyder3 is it?


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Dec 02, 2014 03:36 as a reply to  @ Aspock's post |  #6

Exactly, the movies and everything else you see on your current luminance setting are ALL too bright by the same amount.


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Dec 02, 2014 04:03 as a reply to  @ Aspock's post |  #7

You get used to it very quickly; the eyes adapt. Dim the room lighting.


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Dec 02, 2014 04:26 |  #8

tzalman wrote in post #17303743 (external link)
You get used to it very quickly; the eyes adapt.

Correct. Before long, you'll wonder how you ever tolerated it so darn bright.

tzalman wrote in post #17303743 (external link)
Dim the room lighting.

NOT correct. Your room lighting should remain nice and bright (external link).


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Dec 02, 2014 09:39 |  #9

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My screen is calibrated with a spyder 3 but when I get prints from my local processing place they are all a stop or so dark.

First, how much do you trust your " local processing place"? I've had the same file come out too dark & too light when processed one hour apart? But never at my local Costco.

So I suggest that you look at the PDI_Target_AdobeRGB.jp​g test files at the bottom of: http://www.gballard.ne​t/psd/srgbforwww.html (external link) and make a print with one of them to be sure that you're starting out with a "good & normal" file.


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Dec 02, 2014 12:01 |  #10

It's a Spyder 3 Elite.

I have turned down the brightness until it matches a recent print - to my eyes anyway :-)

When I run the calibration it suggests theat he target brightness is 90 cd/m and my current is 22.2 presumably because it feels my screen is too dark. I imagine if I turn this up, i'm back to where I started.

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Dec 02, 2014 12:15 |  #11

PhotosGuy wrote in post #17304532 (external link)
First, how much do you trust your " local processing place"? I've had the same file come out too dark & two light when processed one hour apart? But never at my local Costco.

So I suggest that you look at the PDI_Target_AdobeRGB.jp​g test files at the bottom of: http://www.gballard.ne​t/psd/srgbforwww.html (external link) and make a print with one of them to be sure that you're starting out with a "good & normal" file.

This. Walgreens is notorious for this. I needed a quick enlargement, it csme out dark, ran home made adjustments, massive overcorrection, printed the first file a second time and it wss spot on.




  
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Dec 02, 2014 12:20 |  #12

Woring in normal / indirect light I tend to set my screen to around 120cd/m and I find that great for editing - I think I'd find 90 a bit low and 22.2 impossible.


  
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Dec 02, 2014 12:29 |  #13

I agree. I think that the best solution all round will be to up the brightness as part of the workflow prior to printing.

At least then I can have something resembling a normal screen. I don't print that much.


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Dec 02, 2014 22:31 as a reply to  @ Damo77's post |  #14

Well, not nice and bright, but not cave-like either. :) Should be less than 32 lux. In my work area I need to slightly dim my lights.


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Dec 02, 2014 22:39 |  #15

This may help:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com …_my_prints_too_​dark.shtml (external link)


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