I feel like I made a mistake going to 622c system?

I started off with a 580EX II
Then I got the RFD-602 set
Then I got a YN-565EX
Then I got the 622c+622c-TX system

Thing is, I feel like I'd be better off with the 560+560-TX system. Of course, the 560 setup didn't exist throughout my entire gear acquisition, and the TX came out after the 622c system. didn't it?

The 622C system certainly seems more versatile, but as long as you have 560's (which are cheaper, too!) then the 560+560-TX setup seems rather ideal.

Of course it's full manual but I've also realized I shoot manual power 99% of the time.

For those of you who went the 622C setup route - why did you choose it over the 560 setup?

convenience of having all in one with just one set of batteries would be nice. However, I like being able to mix and match lights and triggers, but if you just need a couple of speedlights that's probably a different story.

and unless i am using all my gear, i generally have a back up i could somehow rig up.

HSS, and ETTL for fill in bright sunny conditions. I already had 4 canon speedlites so the 622c is excellent. You just need to relax and get used to the versatilty. .

gonzogolf wrote in post #17321662
HSS, and ETTL for fill in bright sunny conditions. I already had 4 canon speedlites so the 622c is excellent. You just need to relax and get used to the versatilty. .

HSS - yes, haven't used this enough myself but gotta get back to playing around with it

ETTL - what does that have to do with sunny conditions, though? If you're on a sunny day, set the flash at 1/1 and adjust aperture/shutter speed accordingly, no?

kaitlyn2004 wrote in post #17321729
HSS - yes, haven't used this enough myself but gotta get back to playing around with it

ETTL - what does that have to do with sunny conditions, though? If you're on a sunny day, set the flash at 1/1 and adjust aperture/shutter speed accordingly, no?

There's nothing that ETTL can do that a manual flash can't do. It's just a matter of convenience. Instead of you setting the flash at 1/1 and adjusting the camera's exposure settings, the flash adjusts itself to compensate for your current exposure settings.. Some people prefer one over the other.

I prefer ETTL indoors, personally. I hate having to (or forgetting to!) adjust power when I walk under a low ceiling, or walk into a brighter/darker area, etc..Most of the time it's recoverable in post but I've lost plenty of photos to forgetting to adjust power as well.

If you get certain studio strobes you can use the ETTL triggers to get them to do HSS (or superspeed whatever).

kaitlyn2004 wrote in post #17321729
HSS - yes, haven't used this enough myself but gotta get back to playing around with it

ETTL - what does that have to do with sunny conditions, though? If you're on a sunny day, set the flash at 1/1 and adjust aperture/shutter speed accordingly, no?

ETTL has its strengths and weaknesses, one of its strengths is in balancibg fill light in bright conditions. I'm not certain of the technique you describe makes any sense as its always better to control your ambient with the shutter speed, the desired aperture for creative reasons and the flash power to bridge the two. Starting with the flash at full power and adjusting to robs you ov options. There are of course times when a speedlie cant compete with full sun.

I dont' think it is a mistake - I shoot manual for flash 95% of the time as well but I am able to do the following with my 622's that I can't with my 603's.

1. Hyper Sync my strobes, and yes I have done this several times now (including a jumping cheerleader) that made me very glad to have them.

2. HSS with my ettl flashes

3. been able to mix my ettl flash with my manual flashes - I tend to go ahead and go all manual but the few times I've done ettl as the key and fixed for bg/kicker they've been really nice and I need to work on/use that more. I'd like to get into group ettl with fec and get that method of flash photography worked out as well.

4. The on board af assist has saved my butt several times

5. build quality is much much better than my RF-603 v1 - those seem to have a problem with screw's coming loose and the foot coming off, at least for me. I'd like to get some 603v2s and see how they are.

The tx along with the 622 system is so much better than digging thru menus that alone is worth it, for me. JMHO.

The more tricks you have in the bag, the better you can problem solve things on the fly.. but it is dependent on your photography style and the subjects you shoot.

Besides the Cells II the yn-622c are the best triggers I've used

I have the YN-622C triggers and they perform a very useful function. When shooting a situation that changes quickly, the ettl function has got me many a keeper with off camera flash. The other feature I enjoy is being able to set up ratio's with flashes. They are an important part
of my travel bag...

Regards,

110yd

I started with the yn560's but went to the 565ex's (and now 568ex's) with 622c's for remote power control.

I like having ETTL for an on camera flash but I'm rarely, if even, in ETTL when off camera. If the 560III and 560-tx were out a couple years ago I would have just went with them.

However now it is nice to have HSS with the 568ex and 622c!

I don't have, nor have I ever really looked into the Yongnuo 622c triggers; I know that they are ETTL compatible. In saying that, do they allow you to adjust flash power from the camera menu?

More than actual ETTL functionality, that's a huge reason that I wanted "ETTL compatible" triggers - not because the actual ETTL functionality, but so that I didn't have to go to each flash to adjust manual flash power, and could do it from the back of the camera instead.

drvnbysound wrote in post #17327545
I don't have, nor have I ever really looked into the Yongnuo 622c triggers; I know that they are ETTL compatible. In saying that, do they allow you to adjust flash power from the camera menu?

More than actual ETTL functionality, that's a huge reason that I wanted "ETTL compatible" triggers - not because the actual ETTL functionality, but so that I didn't have to go to each flash to adjust manual flash power, and could do it from the back of the camera instead.

They do provide that power control with compatible flashes.

gonzogolf wrote in post #17327565
They do provide that power control with compatible flashes.

Pretty much what I figured. I assumed... 430EXII and 580EXII. When it comes to manual flash setup, I'm lazy and if I can stand in one place with my meter and adjust flash power, re-meter, etc... yes please! The meter, walk, adjust, walk back, rinse, repeat gets old!

I'm told that with the 622tx you can get older canon ETTL flashes that dont hsve the communications channel to emulate manual power controls. For that readon I pkan on getting the tx as I have 3 430ex .