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Dec 15, 2014 02:14 |  #1

This may have been asked before, but I wasn't able to find my answer. I shoot mostly landscape, with a bit of urban goodies thrown in. I currently have a Canon 6D, but have played with the Sony A7r a few times. I really like the Sony, and was wondering if I would gain enough in terms of quality in my photographs to justify the expense. The 6D has been a very good camera for me, but am also a guy who loves gadgets. Please help. Thanks in advance, folks.




  
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Dec 15, 2014 09:28 |  #2

For what you do, The A7r would be better but the 6D is probably good enough. Which lens do you own now ? You should probably spend it on glass than a new body. Have you thought about an TSE-24mm or TSE-17mm ?


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Dec 15, 2014 09:40 |  #3

A7r is a great landscape camera. As was asked which lens do you currently own?


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Dec 15, 2014 10:04 |  #4

I just made the exact switch myself, but I did it because I really wanted a smaller camera and focus peaking since I have entirely MF lenses.

So far so good. The EVF takes some getting used to, but it's not as bad as DSLR purists would have you believe. I obviously can't speak for AF performance, but the camera does work well for MF (though honestly I don't think it's any better than the 6D with an EG-S screen was despite what people tell you).

I already find the controls faster and more intuitive than my 6D thanks to all the customization, that's a pro I didn't expect, but the camera is a pleasure to shoot with. So far the files haven't blown me away (been wearing my flame suit a good while now :lol: ) but they are nice, below ISO3200 I'd say they look similar to the 6D, though the colors are very different and take some getting used to. The extra resolution is pretty cool and you do still get lots of detail at high ISO like with the 6D, but colors don't hold up nearly as well in my experience so far.

The main concern I would have for you is the shutter noise. It's not that it's "loud" per-say, but it is drawn out and noticeable. People are definitely likely to notice when you're taking a shot.

If you can make the trade like I did (after selling the 6D I only had to put in about $150 to get the a7R) and you're super curious than I'd say it's worth trying out. You can always resell the a7R and go back to your 6D if it doesn't work out.


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Dec 15, 2014 10:11 |  #5

Sony will undoubtedly offer more in the way of image quality.
The downside remains the overall ease of use and functionality.
6D is going to be easier to use in more situations.

Personally I hate EVF, and can't get used to using the screen after so many years of SLR.


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Dec 15, 2014 11:23 |  #6

vipergts831 wrote in post #17333662 (external link)
A7r is a great landscape camera. As was asked which lens do you currently own?

I have a nice selection of Canon glass. 24-105L, 70-200L f4, 35mm f/s, 100-400, 100mm macro IS.




  
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Dec 15, 2014 18:39 |  #7

I have both, I'm not sure what I would do if i had to just pick one. Right now I probably use the A7R more, but I don't have Sony lenses so everything is manual focus.. When I need AF, the a7r gets left behind. Sony has some good glass now, but it's really not in the same league as far as complete offerings when compared to Canon's EF lineup.

The 6D blows away the A7r's battery life as well.

It is really difficult going back to the 6D raw files (the A7r gives you so much more DR to work with) but IMO, AF trumps that.

That's a really tough call.. Maybe rent the a7r before making the final decision?


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Dec 16, 2014 23:07 |  #8

I just went from a Canon 1DS MK II to the Sony A7R, I love it, but there is a lag from what the viewfinder shows you and what is really happening, I was photographing in the Tetons, wile I had the camera set up on the tripod a group of geese came flying by, I waited for them to enter the screen then took the photo they had already moved out of the field of view by that time, so for wildlife I use my 7D but for everything else I use the Sony.
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Jun 10, 2015 16:50 |  #9

So how does the new Sony A7R II that was announced today land in these cameras?
I have a Canon 5D MK II and now I'm considering selling all my Canon gear to get a Sony A7RII, this would be an upgrade right?




  
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Jun 10, 2015 17:15 |  #10

Body wise yes, lens with AF wise no


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Jun 10, 2015 18:20 |  #11

ChrisMc73 wrote in post #17591921 (external link)
So how does the new Sony A7R II that was announced today land in these cameras?
I have a Canon 5D MK II and now I'm considering selling all my Canon gear to get a Sony A7RII, this would be an upgrade right?

Chris, I will be short not to highjack the tread. The Sony A7R II makes a great replacement for the 6D based on the II's specifications. It is not a general use "Event" camera that would replace a 5D Mark II.

The camera will only shoot at 5 FPS and the released specs does not specify if this is RAW or else some version of JPEG. That may not matter to you, but it does to many people shooting events. Also no mention of dual card slots. This to me is almost a must for wedding shooters and many others who use a Canon 5D series camera. Other than that, I was disappointed to see that there is no mention of using UHS-3 class SD cards. The specs only mention using SDHC cards. Not a big thing to photographers, but this camera looks to really be geared toward video users and the lack of support for the newest class of cards means that anyone shooting 4K video will still need to use an external recorder to get the full potential out of this camera.

The specifications look great for anyone who needs a camera for shooting the type of images you would use a 6D to shoot. Landscapes, portrait, studio use, etc. will probably all benefit from the features of the newest Sony. But, it lacks some features that most people would want who use a 5D series camera assuming that they use their cameras for shooting events. FPS, and dual card slots to name a couple.


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Jun 10, 2015 19:16 |  #12

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Chris, I will be short not to highjack the tread. The Sony A7R II makes a great replacement for the 6D based on the II's specifications. It is not a general use "Event" camera that would replace a 5D Mark II.

The camera will only shoot at 5 FPS and the released specs does not specify if this is RAW or else some version of JPEG. That may not matter to you, but it does to many people shooting events. Also no mention of dual card slots. This to me is almost a must for wedding shooters and many others who use a Canon 5D series camera. Other than that, I was disappointed to see that there is no mention of using UHS-3 class SD cards. The specs only mention using SDHC cards. Not a big thing to photographers, but this camera looks to really be geared toward video users and the lack of support for the newest class of cards means that anyone shooting 4K video will still need to use an external recorder to get the full potential out of this camera.

The specifications look great for anyone who needs a camera for shooting the type of images you would use a 6D to shoot. Landscapes, portrait, studio use, etc. will probably all benefit from the features of the newest Sony. But, it lacks some features that most people would want who use a 5D series camera assuming that they use their cameras for shooting events. FPS, and dual card slots to name a couple.


The a7rII seems to be getting an advanced tracking system similar to the one used in the a6000. If this is the case, then it should be no less capable of shooting wedding and events than the 5DIII. Hell, even the a7II is very capable and at least as good as the 5DII...which was a very capable wedding cam in its day as well.

Also, the 5DIII shoots at 6fps so only slightly faster than the a7rII, and its perfectly adequate for events.

The a7rII also has some notable advantages over the 6D and 5DIII....in body image stabilization, and the back-lit sensor should give it superior low light performance, while still having better DR (useful for preserving details in that white dress!)


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Jun 10, 2015 19:28 |  #13

If you have canon glass stick with the 6D if you have legacy glass go with the sony.

If you have none go with the Sony.


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Jun 10, 2015 19:32 |  #14

maverick75 wrote in post #17592087 (external link)
If you have canon glass stick with the 6D if you have legacy glass go with the sony.

If you have none go with the Sony.

Maybe not:

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ull-frame-bsi-cmos-sensor (external link)

Sony says the on-sensor phase-detection AF can be used with A-mount and some third-party lenses. At the press launch in New York, Sony has been demonstrating the camera autofocusing Canon EF lenses using a Metabones adapter. A-mount lenses can now be phase-detection driven while using the simpler LA-E3 adapter, rather than the LA-E4 that had an SLT mechanism built in

Additionally, the focal plane phase-detection AF system on the α7R II works well with Sony A-mount lenses when they are mounted on the camera using an LA-EA3 or LA-EA1 mount adapter. This allows users to enjoy the wide AF coverage of 399 focal plane phase-detection AF points, high-speed response and high tracking performance with a wider range of lenses. This marks the first time that the AF system of a mirrorless camera can achieve high performance with lenses originally designed for DSLRs.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:01 |  #15

mystik610 wrote in post #17592075 (external link)
Also, the 5DIII shoots at 6fps so only slightly faster than the a7rII, and its perfectly adequate for events.

5 FPS is fine if that is 5 FPS RAW. The specifications I have seen fail to specify that, so we will have to wait and see. In my opinion, the main limitation for event photographers is the use of only one card slot. Of course, it may have two slots and the initial specifications just don't include that information. Without that one feature, I doubt many wedding photographers will purchase this camera as their main body.

But, the way that Sony is releasing new bodies, they will probably have a model with that feature by next year.


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