Sony sensors and Canon

Another what if? If Canon does use Sony's new 46mp sensor would it bring back folks from the dark-side.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …oming-to-canon-dslrs-cr1/

I doubt it will happen, but if Canon put a 46MP Sony sensor in the 5D4, I'd pre-order two of them.

The apparent fact that a 46mp sensor impresses some I guess justifies the megapixel wars. I always said that experienced photographers know that these days just about any camera has a suitable number of megapixels for most purposes. Apparently I was wrong. I'd like someone to give me a rational explanation for what a 46pm sensor would offer that a 20mp does not in terms of something that I can hang on my wall. The human eye certainly, and from what I hear, the resolving capability of glass make the pursuit of high megapixels fruitless in my opinion. Gear heads are excluded from my argument, of course.

joedlh wrote in post #17335598
The apparent fact that a 46mp sensor impresses some I guess justifies the megapixel wars. I always said that experienced photographers know that these days just about any camera has a suitable number of megapixels for most purposes. Apparently I was wrong. I'd like someone to give me a rational explanation for what a 46pm sensor would offer that a 20mp does not in terms of something that I can hang on my wall. The human eye certainly, and from what I hear, the resolving capability of glass make the pursuit of high megapixels fruitless in my opinion. Gear heads are excluded from my argument, of course.

I make massive landscape prints - 40x120" isn't uncommon.

With higher resolution cameras as well as stitching, I can produce prints detailed enough to hold up to close scrutiny even at that size. Stand back to see the big picture, come closer to see details that you never noticed before.

Also, an 80MP image downsampled to 20MP almost always looks better than one captured at 20MP.

joedlh wrote in post #17335598
I'd like someone to give me a rational explanation for what a 46pm sensor would offer that a 20mp does not

I could try, but I'd rather let somebody who knows a lot more about it have a go - Daniel Browning

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=747749

Shadowblade wrote in post #17335619
Also, an 80MP image downsampled to 20MP almost always looks better than one captured at 20MP.

So true. Whenever I do a stitched pano with huge MP, the results standout from a single exposure shot from the same camera - even when downsized.

hollis_f wrote in post #17335626
I could try, but I'd rather let somebody who knows a lot more about it have a go - Daniel Browning

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=747749

Good read.

I'd come back if it really happens.

May I ask, have you looked at the files produced by the new Nikon 810?
I have and they are stunning - they blow away a 5D3 with a 70-200f2.8 L IS usm II.
Until now I Assumed the lens was as important, if not more critical than the camera.

Maybe you disagree, but I and many others think the 70-200 F2.8 II is probably as good as they get optically, ( well excluding any ludicrously priced optics ).

The files I saw were made by an exceptional photographer, but some were made by his wife whos attitude is " I think you guys are crazy spending that kind of money on kit - hell its just a camera! And my iphone takes nice pictures anyway." I understand she just put it on Nikons equivalent of the green box!

My point being skill aside - these files are so rich, so detailed they are gorgeous. You dont need better ( yeah I knowv, famous last words )

A good anology is ... I have always been into fast cars, ( on a limited budget ) I always wanted them to go faster. The first car I had that gave total satisfaction was my AMG SL 63 ( not the latest 5.8 litre but the first 6.3 normally aspirated one. ) basically you put your foot down with real Caution!! Sod ESP and ASR! Unless you are Efffing crazy you think about water on the road before you unleash that powertrain. I unashamedly have to admit it is beyond my capability as a driver, it can scare the crap out of me!
The wife was furious when I bought it. She could not see why I should spend £20k more than the old SL500. In her opinion, they pretty much look the same, and the AMG CAN be very docile! So I told her to take it on the motorway and then see if she could not see the difference. Basically she took it out ONCE with a girlfriend - came back looking white - and said " that car is bloody lethal" and has never driven it since!
Apparently she floored it on the slip road entering the Motorway, and according to her girlfriend, within a few hundred meters they catapulted straight into the fast lane clipping 150, and had to brake like fury to avoid ramming a car in the fast lane up the ass. Her friends words were "I seriously nearly wet myself - but god it was better than sex!
So we all laughed like hell, when her husband got one too!

The D810 files gave me the exact same feeling - they are so good, I don't need any better - I doubt if my eyes would be up to seeing an improvement, even if I pixel peeped!

As the D810 cast the same as a 5D3 IMO opinion, Canon needs to OEM this kind of technology because they clearly lag behind and obviously dont have the brains to elcipse this kind of quality!

Actually the owner of the D810 a pro photographer, said he was worried that, this quality was so good, that he was worried that many of his clients, who can easily afford one might decide to do their own portraits!
He feels the pure image quality seriously erodes the difference between an Amateaur and a Pro!

If Canon came out with a 46 MPS monster - and the reviews were good, i.e. Non of the disasterous reports like I See on the 7DII. I will upgrade early - say within 4 - 6 months. Conversely if the 5D4 comes out with the same old technology, I will migrate to Nikon. Yep sell the lot ! And take the hit!

peteg1 wrote in post #17334811
Another what if? If Canon does use Sony's new 46mp sensor would it bring back folks from the dark-side.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …oming-to-canon-dslrs-cr1/

I would preorder this ASAP if they did that

hollis_f wrote in post #17335626
I could try, but I'd rather let somebody who knows a lot more about it have a go - Daniel Browning

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=747749

Very good post by Daniel. I was one of those who said who needs high MP. Until i toyed with an A7r and eventually owned it. There is something to be said about the amount of fine detail which can be captured by the sensor.

I would preorder and as soon as it was in my hands I would sell my 5d3 and my a7r. Why have two bodies when one body can do it all (I know the D810 has the 36Mp sensor and good AF but it doesn't take canon lenses which I love)

Heck I'd still be happy if the 5d4 had the 36mp sensor from the a7r in it

More rumors, starting to heat-up.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …amera-coming-in-2015-cr3/

Yeah but nothing in that rumour article about the sensor being a Sony sensor

xpfloyd wrote in post #17338318
I would preorder and as soon as it was in my hands I would sell my 5d3 and my a7r. Why have two bodies when one body can do it all (I know the D810 has the 36Mp sensor and good AF but it doesn't take canon lenses which I love)

Agreed! That's why I never went nikon. Prefer canon lenses