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Dec 16, 2014 16:18 |  #1

I'm just doing some research about children sports (I have a 8 month newborn but planning for the future). I currently own a 5dmk3 and usually i do portrait work, but with my new born son. I rarely rapid fire and I've got the timing right for capturing moments with my son. But, I've done some reading and thinking and tried the rapid fire mode. Seems pretty useful but,

I've got a great set of lens already, but if you had the extra money sitting around, would it be worth it to upgrade to a 1dx series (or whatever comes out by next year) for children sports, or would the 6fps of a 5dmk3 be sufficient? I'm not too sure, but I'm guessing there's a lock and track mode on the 1dx series? ( not too sure if my 5d has that also)

what's your take for and against this?

thanks in advance!

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Dec 16, 2014 16:29 |  #2

Being a sports photographer I value the 10/12fps a lot as its the difference between "the shot" and one that's "good enough." But I'm sure the 5Diii would do just fine for kids sports as those pictures are more for memories and not for competitive submission to the paper.

Truly in my opinion if you really want the 10fps for children's sports, the 1Div is still a great camera. I mean even my 1Diii is great, but I never shoot higher ISOs you'd probably encounter at children's sport facilities.

So to wrap that up, my vote is for keeping the 5Diii and putting the extra cash elsewhere, or pick up a nice condition 1Div


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Dec 16, 2014 21:59 |  #3

great! thx echoshotz! really appreciate your comments!


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Dec 17, 2014 08:54 |  #4

I have both a 5D3 and 1D4, I like the 1D a little more for sports, but the difference is small. If I were to have just one camera it would be the 5D3 because the 1D bodies are too big for vacation or just everyday shooting.

By the time your baby is playing sports at a level where the difference between these bodies might matter at all, you will have a 10 year old camera that is three generation old.


And your kid might be a klutz that hates sports.


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Dec 18, 2014 02:36 |  #5

You'll have greater impact in imagery buying different lenses.

I'd pickup a new 100-400Lmk2 and other lenses before buying a flagship 1dx.

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Dec 18, 2014 13:42 |  #6

I'd second the opinions on getting better glass, which will still be good for many many years to come. The Super tele v1 (introduced in 1999) are still in play by many, however, I would wager that the number of those camera bodies introduced back in 1999 along with the Super teles are not being used by many, some yes, but not many as the lenses. I don't know what glass you have, but spend the money there and when the kid is ready for sports, then look at a newer camera body.

Also, the 5D3 will be plenty good for kids; they are not that fast on the field that you won't capture the moment.

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Dec 18, 2014 14:44 |  #7

5D3 is well suited for your application. I do not need more FPS than the 5D3 offers to shoot fast action.


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Dec 20, 2014 00:03 |  #8

great responses!
thanks for the info!


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Dec 20, 2014 08:16 |  #9

I currently have the 5DM3, and love it, but, I am doing more sports shots. When the sports shots equal the portrait shots, I plan on purchasing the 1Dx (x).


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Dec 20, 2014 23:15 |  #10

Just wanted to echo & reemphasize what was said above. Invest into glass. The depreciation is even minimal, compared to camera bodies.




  
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Dec 21, 2014 07:58 |  #11

The 5D3 and 7D2 are currently my top choices for all around best cameras do all good. 5D3 being the better low light capable camera.

I have a 5D3 and 4 kids (13,7,5,1.5) and believe me the 5D3 has become the ultimate camera body for my needs. The only thing that could trump it for me would be the 1Dx but at that price I'd rather have the 5D3/7D2 combo...

However for a single camera body shooter the 5D3 is a a great performer. I see sooooooo many professional sport shooters using a 5D3 it's not even funny.


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Dec 21, 2014 10:16 |  #12

Depending on your needs select whatever tool that will deliver. I had no issues documenting fast drag cars down mission Raceway with my 5d mark 2. Even documenting my nieces soccer games it was good enough for casual shooting.

Due to the distance and depth of field F 2.8 is plenty deep to document a lot of fast moving subjects except birds in flight.

5d3 should have been the 5d2 when it was first introduced.

in this situation glass before body.

even with my three girls I can document virtually everything with my 5d mark 2.

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Dec 21, 2014 10:57 |  #13

rwong2k wrote in post #17336445 (external link)
but planning for the future).
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The speed at which digital technology advances makes it impossible to plan very far into the future. Look at what the previous generation 1D bodies sell for today on the secondhand market compared to their original cost. If you can actually take advantage of 1Dx features in 2015 (i.e., in the coming year) as well justify the cost and physical size then go for it. For example, by the time your kids are doing the type of sports justifying 12 fps there will be something much better in the marketplace that will use technologies that do exist today. It makes more sense to satisfy immediate needs rather than long term.

I agree with others that the 5D3 makes a lot more sense for what you are doing. It only makes sense to change to something else if the 5D3 has failed you. Have you failed to get the picture because you were using the 5D3? It is also possible to change from the 5D3 to something else and continue to get the same failures. You have to make sure the failures you are getting are due to a limitation of the 5D3 camera.


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Dec 21, 2014 21:23 |  #14

The 5D3 just produces some sweet images. I've used mine for HS football with the 500 f4 and man did it handle the job nicely.


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Dec 21, 2014 22:25 |  #15

.bulldog wrote in post #17343865 (external link)
Just wanted to echo & reemphasize what was said above. Invest into glass. The depreciation is even minimal, compared to camera bodies.

thanks for the info, I guess to change the topic up a little bit is, what other glass would be needed? I have a 70-200/2.8 with a 1.4 and 2x teleconverter already, I'm just guessing that's enough, but then again, I've never shot kids sports before, is the 200mm going to be enough reach for say hockey,baseball, tennis, swimming, eg. those type of sports?

or will I be wanting something in the 400mm+ range?


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