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EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Review WOW!

 
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Dec 17, 2014 14:36 |  #16

I just got a call from my store. They have one for me and will be shipped tomorrow. Looking forward it.


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Dismal grey day, Ive had it only for 60 minutes, so more to come. (Might get to the beach today)

However for right now, I have two things to say about this lens.

@ 10:12am this morning my new 100-400 arrived at the exact same time as my new (used) 200mm f/2L IS.
Needless to say I started the day playing with the 200mm, however as of right now the only thing I am posting about is the 100-400mm. Do the math!

This lens is the fastest most accurately focusing lens I have had opportunity to shoot. On the 1D4 and 5D3 side by side in my backyard right now it is mopping the floor with the otherwise amazing 200mm f/2L! Quicker, quieter, and more confident. In fact the assertion with which this lens snaps into correct focus is absolutely unequaled. I've never seen anything like it. Going from near infinity on a distant house peak to the tree 3 feet in front of me offers ZERO hunt, just the brief blur as it travels from all the way out to nearly all the way in and solid perfectly accurate lock.
It is absolutely faster than the 400mm f/5.6L prime.
It also bested the 200mm f/2 indoors in low light for af speed and lack of hunting on both 1D4 and 5D3.

Folks, I did not believe it was possible for a zoom to focus so fast and confidently. Canon has really made some significant improvements with the MkII designs.


There will be more, I have more now but I don't want to post anything but the most important thing right now (as seen above) until I have the full story.

Thanks, Jake!

I have been happy with the IQ of my old 100-400L. Now I find out that the IS is better, the MFD is 3' and now the AF is smokin' fast AND accurate on version II. Where am I going to get $2,200? Please send me a check, immediately! :)

Seriously, it seems like Canon hit a home run with this one. Enjoy your new (& used) lenses.


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Dec 17, 2014 17:52 |  #18

Can Pekka enable a setting where sny mention of this lens is blocked? I cant go there right now.




  
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Dec 17, 2014 18:14 |  #19

First post updated with an actual review. Some images added. More to come when I get the chance.


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Dec 17, 2014 18:18 |  #20

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When you say it focuses faster than anything you had before; I am trying to equate the speed - to say my 70-200 F2.8 L USM II. ...

This is a good question. I have NOT used the new MkII of the 70-200mm beyond in a store, likewise my experience with the 70-300mm L is limited. My impression is that it is faster than the 70-300mm for sure based on my limited experience with that lens. For the 70-200mm MKII Id have a harder time saying based on my simple recollection. I just did not get the chance to get wowed by that lens shooting it in B&H ;)

What I have owned and there fore used a lot, is in my gear list in my sig.


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Dec 17, 2014 19:25 |  #21

Looks like it is going to be easier than I thought to sell my 400 f:/5.6. Wow! Amazing review. Many thanks Jake!!
Now if B&H would get in gear and start shipping.
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Dec 17, 2014 19:26 |  #22

As far as the push-pull-one-touch vs. turn zoom, when the tension ring is at the lowest setting the v2.0 supports* both ;)

* "supports" being defined as "can be done", not necessarily "advisable to be done". Would be great if we were able to check with Canon if the latter were true. If so, that would be a fantastic resolution of the push-pull vs. turn dilemma!!


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Dec 17, 2014 19:45 |  #23

Unfortunately with my copy, this is not so. The tension is far too tight.

Trust me, I don't care what Canon says, if it worked Id do it for sure!

Perhaps it will loosen up, but a day old it's so tight there is no use for the tension ring as the lightest setting is tighter than most zooms I've used.

Hutersdad, a member here, said about the same. So we have at least two examples with this same result.


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Dec 17, 2014 19:45 |  #24

jeetsukumaran wrote in post #17338581 (external link)
As far as the push-pull-one-touch vs. turn zoom, when the tension ring is at the lowest setting the v2.0 supports* both ;)

* "supports" being defined as "can be done", not necessarily "advisable to be done". Would be great if we were able to check with Canon if the latter were true. If so, that would be a fantastic resolution of the push-pull vs. turn dilemma!!

But according to the lore, push-pull sucks in dust.


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Dec 17, 2014 19:52 |  #25

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But according to the lore, push-pull sucks in dust.

The lore is wrong. Sorry I will never stop arguing this.
Rotation or pulling, the same elements move in the same way. If the lens lets in air (and dust) as the length changes, dust gets in either way.

My own 100-400mm was with me in the most arid dusty environment I've ever been for three weeks as a daily shooter. (Namibia and Bostswana during the dry season, Etosha, a dry salt barren, everything is covered in dust) The 100-400mm was no more dust prone than any of my zoom lenses.

I still have that lens, have had it since 2004, It's been with me in 8 countries on 3 continents, and it is spotless.


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Dec 17, 2014 19:58 |  #26

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17338608 (external link)
Unfortunately with my copy, this is not so. The tension is far too tight.
Perhaps it will loosen up, but a day old it's so tight there is no use for the tension ring as the lightest setting is tighter than most zooms I've used.

Hutersdad, a member here, said about the same. So we have at least two examples with this same result.

Hmm. Interesting. I just tried it again, and, while it is locked pretty solid at the tightest setting, at the loosest setting it definitely can be pushed and pulled without too much force. To give an idea of the force needed to push/pull, I originally discovered it by accident when trying to casually remove the hood without pressing the hood unlock and rotating first. No excessive or force anything, just a light tug.

At the loosest setting there is (as yet) no creep in either direction when the lens is resting vertical, but a sudden inertial change (e.g., holding the lens facing down, moving it down at a moderate speed, and then suddenly stopping the movement) does cause the lens to extend just a little. At the tightest tension, there is no movement whatsoever. And no push/pull either.

As far as the "day old" thing goes -- mine is older .... by a FULL day :) :) :)! I've hardly used it (rain, here too), so I don't think it is a wearing-in thing. But time will tell.

EDIT: Here is someone else with the same experience: http://www.dpreview.co​m/forums/post/54937485 (external link) .

So it is 2 for the "dual" mode an 2 for the "single" mode setting now. Would love to see more numbers from other folk to figure out if I am dealing with a feature or a bug!


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Dec 17, 2014 20:18 |  #27

So as far as the autofocus speed goes ...

As can be figured out from my gear list, and some "bro-photographers" disdain for such in this forum non-withstanding, I tend to have used manual focus a lot more than auto (landscape and close-ups being my thing), so I do not have the best experience from which judge the AF.

But I will say the AF on my copy of the 100-400 II does not seem that much better than, say, my 70-200 f/4L IS, in relatively normal indoor lighting (i.e., dim compared to a sunny day). It gets the focus on decent high contrast targets pretty well. But in dimmer lighting on low contrast targets it does not do so well. No hunting or anything: it gets it right on the first pass. But none of that "blur-and-snap". More of a long, drawn-out, slide to a stop. Like one of those swiss tram cars pulling up a mountain: smooth and steady, but slow and strained at the same time. I suspect this is more to do with my camera body (6D) rather than the lens per se, but just thought I would mention it.


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Dec 17, 2014 20:53 |  #28

Thanks a lot Jake. :rolleyes: Before I read your review, I *had* myself talked out of buying the MK-II version of this lens.  :p



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Dec 17, 2014 21:16 |  #29

Got the 100-400mm II this afternoon. Here is my duck shot. It is a fairly severe crop (about 33% of the frame horizontally).

Is it sharp?

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Dec 17, 2014 21:38 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #30

The new thing here is the eyeglasses. Our max size used to be 1024 on the long side but I noticed your image was 1280. Is a larger size OK now with the new site? I have not real checked into it but I have been clicking on the glasses to view.

I hope don't mind that I ran it through my action as I was curios as you are because they are shipping mine tomorrow. I kept the crop size the same and just got rid of some outer stuff to stay within size.

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