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Jan 07, 2018 16:33 |  #7126

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Decided to take the light-weight combo out today: 80D + 100-400II + 1.4xIII. Such a delight to carry around in the biting cold.

So... not sure if you can see it in the photos below, but that hazy/veiled soft look from this lens combo is very evident, especially in the raven photo. It's the one knock I've always had against this lens, but they clean up well enough in post that I can get past it. It reminds me of the 50L's rendering: the detail is there, it's just "smudged" a little. The MFA is adjusted, my shutter speeds are high enough to mitigate hand shake, and ISO isn't robbing me of too much detail. It could be atmospherics at work, but it was nice and clear today.

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This looks exactly like I used to get with the 7D2, 100–400L II, and Canon 1.4x III. No amount of MFA helped, the pictures were still a little hazy at 400 mm. Eventually I stopped using the TC altogether to get the sharpness I wanted. I still do not know what it was, as I sold the 7D2 and bought the 5D4, and the same combination of the lens and the TC shines.


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Jan 07, 2018 17:31 as a reply to  @ Lbsimon's post |  #7127

Interesting. I have noticed something similar with my 100-400 Mk2. Whilst I am quite happy with it's performance on my 7D2 (a very versatile and light combo) it does not blow my socks off. When I put the same lens on my 1DX my socks are gone!:lol:

I am not certain why this is as, in good light, my 7D2 is excellent on my (much older) 300 F2.8 L IS and 800 F5.6 L IS lenses which were not built (I think) for this sort of resolution. AMFA goes not help as the AF system is spot on (like all my Canon bodies) so I am little baffled - however it is more than adequate so I am quite happy. I just don't quite get results like Pondradervmad


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Jan 07, 2018 18:39 |  #7128

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Interesting. I have noticed something similar with my 100-400 Mk2. Whilst I am quite happy with it's performance on my 7D2 (a very versatile and light combo) it does not blow my socks off. When I put the same lens on my 1DX my socks are gone!:lol:

I am not certain why this is as, in good light, my 7D2 is excellent on my (much older) 300 F2.8 L IS and 800 F5.6 L IS lenses which were not built (I think) for this sort of resolution. AMFA goes not help as the AF system is spot on (like all my Canon bodies) so I am little baffled - however it is more than adequate so I am quite happy. I just don't quite get results like Pondradervmad

I don't know, I think it comes down to motion blur some how, mine or the critter. I don't try to keep my camera steady... I try and make it float in mid air. Thanks for the props John.. I can say I would someday like to give the 1Dx a go.. can't talk anyone into it yet lol... So I have to make my 7DII do the same job. I think I just will it to shot how I wish. Most of my experience with the 100-400LII is in mode 2 but its in mode 1 right now. I shot mode 3 for a bit and found I was loosing it a bit so I moved back to mode 1 for now. Although it really comes down to what your shooting. Anything I'm doing differently is totally subconscious. Of course when I'm shooting the world disappears and life becomes a blur. Working with a top wheel that is not 100% is tough I might say. My lens works well with the 1.4III but sunny days the 7DII makes more noise than dark and dingy days.


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Jan 07, 2018 19:53 |  #7129

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I don't know, I think it comes down to motion blur some how, mine or the critter. I don't try to keep my camera steady... I try and make it float in mid air. Thanks for the props John.. I can say I would someday like to give the 1Dx a go.. can't talk anyone into it yet lol... So I have to make my 7DII do the same job. I think I just will it to shot how I wish. Most of my experience with the 100-400LII is in mode 2 but its in mode 1 right now. I shot mode 3 for a bit and found I was loosing it a bit so I moved back to mode 1 for now. Although it really comes down to what your shooting. Anything I'm doing differently is totally subconscious. Of course when I'm shooting the world disappears and life becomes a blur. Working with a top wheel that is not 100% is tough I might say. My lens works well with the 1.4III but sunny days the 7DII makes more noise than dark and dingy days.

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Ohhh, this shot is terrible ;-)a;-)a No detail in the snow at all.

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Jan 07, 2018 20:07 |  #7130

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Ohhh, this shot is terrible ;-)a;-)a No detail in the snow at all.

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Sorry rod I whited it out lol .... Ill fix it for ya


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Jan 07, 2018 21:06 |  #7131

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Interesting. I have noticed something similar with my 100-400 Mk2. Whilst I am quite happy with it's performance on my 7D2 (a very versatile and light combo) it does not blow my socks off. When I put the same lens on my 1DX my socks are gone!:lol:

I am not certain why this is as, in good light, my 7D2 is excellent on my (much older) 300 F2.8 L IS and 800 F5.6 L IS lenses which were not built (I think) for this sort of resolution. AMFA goes not help as the AF system is spot on (like all my Canon bodies) so I am little baffled - however it is more than adequate so I am quite happy. I just don't quite get results like Pondradervmad

There is something to be said about 300mm... a few pixels in the centre of a much larger image.


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Jan 07, 2018 21:22 |  #7132

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I would like to visit your zoo...


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Jan 07, 2018 21:46 |  #7133

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I would like to visit your zoo...

Everything runs free in my zoo Britain... including you lol


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Jan 08, 2018 00:35 |  #7134

While I know this lens is not really a portrait lens, I was trying it out on my granddaughter who is a moving subject. Not too bad.....


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Jan 08, 2018 03:10 |  #7135

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Jan 08, 2018 09:14 |  #7136

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While I know this lens is not really a portrait lens...

Perplexing statement. Nice portrait, though!


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Jan 08, 2018 12:01 |  #7137

Pondrader wrote in post #18535884 (external link)
I don't know, I think it comes down to motion blur some how, mine or the critter. I don't try to keep my camera steady... I try and make it float in mid air. Thanks for the props John.. I can say I would someday like to give the 1Dx a go.. can't talk anyone into it yet lol... So I have to make my 7DII do the same job. I think I just will it to shot how I wish. Most of my experience with the 100-400LII is in mode 2 but its in mode 1 right now. I shot mode 3 for a bit and found I was loosing it a bit so I moved back to mode 1 for now. Although it really comes down to what your shooting. Anything I'm doing differently is totally subconscious. Of course when I'm shooting the world disappears and life becomes a blur. Working with a top wheel that is not 100% is tough I might say. My lens works well with the 1.4III but sunny days the 7DII makes more noise than dark and dingy days.

I had this blur when shooting anything - wildlife, flowers, etc., with low or high SS, good or not so good light. It was not "blur" per se, I could not put a finger on it, but just something did not look right. The same 7D2 with the 70-200 F/4 IS and 1.4x III TC looked perfect. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately) I cannot do any comparative shooting any more, as the 7D2 is gone, and I am extremely happy with the 5D4 that replaced it.


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Jan 08, 2018 18:25 |  #7139

Lbsimon wrote in post #18536343 (external link)
I had this blur when shooting anything - wildlife, flowers, etc., with low or high SS, good or not so good light. It was not "blur" per se, I could not put a finger on it, but just something did not look right. The same 7D2 with the 70-200 F/4 IS and 1.4x III TC looked perfect. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately) I cannot do any comparative shooting any more, as the 7D2 is gone, and I am extremely happy with the 5D4 that replaced it.

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Jan 08, 2018 18:38 |  #7140

So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.


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