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EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Review WOW!

 
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Dec 19, 2014 23:29 as a reply to  @ post 17341870 |  #121

Amazing, CyberDyneSystems.

The lens is a game changer in that it changes how we think we might use long telephotos.

The MFD is one thing: with this, we are dealing with a really long-reach close-up lens.

Then there is the IS: with this type of reach available without a support being needed, we are in a new era of what we can do with telephotos.

AMAZING.

I took this as some quick snaps while setting up for calibration/testing to see if my copy was OK.

~30 ft away, hand-held, ambient-light, 400mm, ISO 1600, 1/8 sec, wide-open at f/5.6. White-balance and exposure fixed only. Absolute no sharpening, contrast-enhancement or any other processing, not even capture sharpening.


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Again: 1/8 seconds at 400mm hand-held!

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Dec 20, 2014 08:06 |  #122

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17340244 (external link)
I'm surprised to read how close they were.

I will say that though I was always happy with my copy of the old 100-400mm, I had opportunity to shoot "Blondes" and his was a good deal sharper. Mine was made in 2003 ish, his was made 2007 ish?

Mine did go off to Canon after that side by side on one of my 1D3's MANY trips to Canon, and got a going over which I felt made it better. Maybe a big part of the improvement is results I am seeing is more accurate AF lock and superior IS, which would not show in a tripod locked down side by side.


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I have a version 1 and im not in a hurry to upgrade. These are looking as i predicted.....very similar to the 70-200 debate b/t version 1 and 11 for F/2.8... versions 11 are slightly better but nothing you can compensate for with some very minor LR adjustments.

That being said

Do you still have your version 1

Your post about 1/6 handheld definitely got my attention. My version 1 i can regularly hold it at 1/60-60--80 and a non moving object and get a shot if needed. Can you compare the 2 IS capabilities ??

I think you know where im going with this when someone mentioned a church lens  :p


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Dec 20, 2014 08:17 |  #123

Somehow I got the idea that autofocus would work with the MKIII converter on a 5dIII body. Tried it this morning and was disappointed to learn it still does not. Am I missing something?


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Dec 20, 2014 08:22 |  #124

Northwoods Bill wrote in post #17342761 (external link)
Somehow I got the idea that autofocus would work with the MKIII converter on a 5dIII body. Tried it this morning and was disappointed to learn it still does not. Am I missing something?

Does the 5D III have the latest firmware?


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Dec 20, 2014 08:28 as a reply to  @ peteg1's post |  #125

No, probably not I have never upgraded the firmware. Can we confirm that it does work with a firmware upgrade? *Starting to get really excited again*


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Dec 20, 2014 08:45 |  #126

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17342197 (external link)
All a 100% crop is, is an crop of an image taken when the image is set to 100% size on your screen, that is small enough to fit on others screens as well when viewed at 100%

If your image is 3500x2400 pixels and you post the whole thing here @ 1280x1024, it is not being shown at 100%. It is being reduced in size a lot.

However, if you crop a section of detail in that image, say to 1000x800 pixels, this can be displayed at full on the forum. As in the case of the 1D image, that 2nd image "crop" is 100% view. Pixel for pixel view. The first image that is not a crop can;t fit on your or my screen, so it's been reduced in size throwing out lots of pixels worth of detail.

Good explanation here;
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1267432


Wow, I really feel like an knuckle head I can't seem to wrap my mind around this. If I open an image in LR straight out of the 5DIII it is 5760 x 3840 Do I then load the crop tool and drag corners till I am around 1000 x 800 or is there another way? Sorry to be so dense.

On an interesting side note I started out typing using the word Idi*t to describe myself and a pop up appeared in the preview warning me that attacks on others or foul language would not be tolerated. Pretty cool Pekka!


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Dec 20, 2014 08:47 |  #127

I'm sorry to say I don't think it will work even with the latest FM. You still have to be at least at f8 (or wider).


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Dec 20, 2014 08:57 |  #128

digital paradise wrote in post #17342803 (external link)
I'm sorry to say I don't think it will work even with the latest FM. You still have to be at least at f8 (or wider).

It would be at f/8: f/5.6 + 1 stop for the 1.4x TC MKIII.


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Dec 20, 2014 09:01 |  #129

Either way the F stop is a function of the lens and the converter, not the camera, correct?

I know AF works with some bodies. On the original 100-400 AF did not work with the 5dIII but like I said I thought it did with the new version of the 100-400


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Dec 20, 2014 09:03 |  #130

Well, here it is:

https://www.usa.canon.​com …_display/EOS5DM​3_firmware (external link)

Apparently even the old version of the lens is now supported with the firmware upgrade. YES!!!!


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Dec 20, 2014 09:05 |  #131

Oh I thought he had a 2X. Sorry. Lenses and Usable AF points starts on Page 79 of the PDF manual. I could not find any extender combo listed but this manual was written be before FM updates. I think they added f8 but I did not pay attention as I never put a TC on that camera.


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Dec 20, 2014 09:06 |  #132

Northwoods Bill wrote in post #17342830 (external link)
Well, here it is:

https://www.usa.canon.​com …_display/EOS5DM​3_firmware (external link)

Apparently even the old version of the lens is now supported with the firmware upgrade. YES!!!!

Good news.


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Dec 20, 2014 09:18 |  #133

peteg1 wrote in post #17342766 (external link)
Does the 5D III have the latest firmware?

Thank you! It works perfectly. I probably would have never thought of a firmware update. :oops:


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Dec 20, 2014 09:36 |  #134

Cool, will be taking my 1.4xIII and 100-400 II out today with 7dII/5dIII. Now if the sky would clear-up.


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Dec 20, 2014 09:42 |  #135

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17339456 (external link)
A quick note on the 1.4x with this lens.

There were shots I was looking at in C1 and I was mystified how the aperture had gotten turned up to f/8-f/9 when my goal had been to shoot with it wide open. The images themselves displayed no tell tell signs of any noticeable difference in Image quality. finally it dawned on me, "Oh yeah, that's when I had the 1.4x (MKII) on. I always stop down at lease one notch with a T-Con, thus f/9.

A lot of that has to do with the size of your pixels ... on a 7D2 or 70D the difference should be more obvious, not that this is a bad thing. I have a 3.1MP D30 that I bought used for $140 just for the novelty of the big pixels - other than global contrast dropping a little, there is little loss in pixel contrast even with 2x.

On the old 100-400mm the addition of a 1.4x even on a 1D meant focus went out the window, and IQ went down noticeably.

I used a 2xIII and manual focus with my 100-400 vI at f/18 on my 18MP 7D; I didn't find it to be all that bad, but my goal is subject quality, not pixel quality or full image quality. While it is sometimes hard to believe that there is more detail looking at the 2x image at 100% pixel view, when you actually scale both to the same subject size, the detail is greater with the 2x (with the same shutter speed, physical aperture size at the sweet spot, and 4x the ISO), and the size of the radius of the AA filter is half the size in the result. AA filters create a bigger usefulness for TCs, as it makes it easier to get around them when they aren't necessary.




  
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