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EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Review WOW!

 
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Jun 26, 2015 14:35 |  #1471

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17611509 (external link)
I'd not see the original until now Archibald. Honestly I've not shot that much with mine. I'll have to go back for a look see.
This is becoming very interesting.
Choder glad you like the phrasology, not every day I come up with a 'term'; would prefer another one as in this is not good it's happening with this lens.
Think Canon would posit a position on how/why if a raw was sent to them?

Har, good luck with that. Canon is not known for its forthrightness.

As mentioned before, this is not a new issue. The old 100-400 did the same thing. There is no need for surprise.

It's noteworthy, though, that the popular reviewers don't exactly highlight the problem. Surely they know about it, but they are salesmen, they don't want to discourage you from buying the product. They make money if you buy (through their sites). So it seems to me they don't mention questionable behavior or soft-pedal it.

Digital Picture (old model lens): "An 8-blade aperture helps with bokeh (foreground/background blur quality) though this is not a strong feature of this lens."

Photozone.de (old model): "Out-of-focus highlights show an outlining effect which can result in rather rough out-of-focus blur in high contrast scenes." Then, "the foreground blur ... is somewhat more nervous." Ha, they say nervous. It shows doubling.

Ken Rockwell (old model): "Bokeh, the quality of out-of-focus areas as opposed to the degree of defocus, is pretty good, especially at the 400mm end."

Ken Rockwell (new model): "Bokeh, the quality of out-of-focus areas as opposed to the degree of defocus, is great."

Digital Picture (new model): "... the 100-400 renders out of focus specular highlights as smoothly-filled, nicely-rounded circles (with the typical concentric rings found near the perimeter)."

dpreview: Can't find any reviews of the 100-400 lenses.

Sometimes I think we users believe the reviewers more than we believe our own eyes.


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Jun 26, 2015 14:39 |  #1472

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Har, good luck with that. Canon is not known for its forthrightness.

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Jun 26, 2015 14:50 |  #1473

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I think you miss read meaning,...Im saying I don't have a problem with my back grounds, how when and where Archibald did or didn't... I can not reason,...Jake said Ian Murray had a similar back ground...he uses a 1Dx and a 500mm f4 so I'm not intending to try and reason it out. I'm showing only what I can do and have done and have found. I don't think my back grounds look any different the Im use to see. and this lens is really loved by thousands of very good photographers. The only complaint I have is with the amount of dirt I am accumulating.

There is nothing wrong with your pics. They are great. Just take your pics for what they are worth, which is a lot.

I'm not taking back what is known about the bokeh of this lens, I'm just saying that if it is not an issue in any given pic, then don't worry about it.


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Jun 26, 2015 15:31 |  #1474

Jeff I hear ya, and believe me I'm not fretting at all. I remember you mentioning the dirt issue once (or twice) before too. The dirt and the bokeh are non issues for me, I just don't use that lens (or really any big lens) so much. I guess I'm gravitating to the smaller systems (like the Lumix and Sony). I'm keeping my 7Dii for if a trip and faster things comes up but truth is where I live, well like you said 'life and limb' at risk' Ha!
Hey, I did put one of the neoprene covers (can't remember brand name at the moment) on the 100-400ii, maybe that will keep the dust out ;-)a;-)a


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Jun 26, 2015 15:54 |  #1475

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Medicineman I could not agree more, This lens is smokin, Im trying to find a wide image of the pond just to show the distance.

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That first shot looks like a Robert Bateman painting!


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Jun 26, 2015 17:59 as a reply to  @ FPP's post |  #1476

Thanks I really should take a look at those images.

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Jun 27, 2015 22:09 |  #1478

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Very nice, and fine bokeh. :-)


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Jun 28, 2015 06:00 |  #1479

...how about a landscape for change of scene...

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That combo is real gem isn't it. Nice landing capture.


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Jun 28, 2015 13:16 |  #1482

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It is surprising how one can use the 100-400ii for landscapes... very nice.


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Jun 28, 2015 14:15 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #1483

Thanks!

Macro to mountains, doesn't make much difference to me, it's the viewfinder that decides and the 100-400 II makes it that much easier and clearer.
I also like telephoto compression in landscapes, adds some dynamic.

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Jun 28, 2015 15:50 as a reply to  @ John_T's post |  #1484

Very nice, indeed. We don't have mountains here in Florida... we have sinkholes. ;)

We do get some nice sunsets on the gulf some evenings. We live a bit far away to get there on the spur of the moment.


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Jun 28, 2015 16:50 |  #1485

I think John_T is cheating!!!!
Don't think it is possible at all to take a bad landscape picture in Switzerland. ;-)a

Very nice pics and really shows how wide angle lenses are NOT required.


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