how many clicks left?

I see many used cameras advertised and I am curious about one aspect:

Some people mention how many clicks the camera has... so naturally I ask: How many clicks can a camera take? Let's assume the D-30.

Is the number of clicks an important factor when purchasing used cameras?

Can this number be verified? Can it be forged?

What happens when you reach the FINAL click? How much money are we talking about here to get it fixed or whatever we have to do when we reach there?

I feel that pros tend to be aware of number of clicks and know exactly when to ditch the camera and buy a new one! Is that true?

-amateur

Funny how you word it "the final click" Well, I dont know much about this subject, but I REALLY doubt it will explode on its final click...

Anyways, this number is realative, if this person drops the camera a lot, the "final click" number will be less than someone who kept it in perfect shape, and maybe even got it serviced to be cleaned once in a while... the final click would be much further away.

The D30 is nice for cost reasons, but I would still suggest the 10D to you... most places can at least get it in now... I went to a camera shop yesterday, and asked him if he was getting the 10D in pretty often now, and he said he has been able to shelve it much better than before, he even had a few in stock, but he didnt know if he would have them for much longer... but if you had to wait more than a month now that would be REALLY uncommon.

I can only make an educated guess as to what happens when we reach the FINAL click:

1) the shutter curtain locks, requiring service and possibly replacement.

2) the shutter mechanism croaks, requiring service and possibly replacement.

3)

-amateur

Generally Canon has claimed at least 100K cycles for their pro cameras (150K for the EOS 1V and 1D) but some independent tests have shown them lasting much longer (like 400K)

Consumer cameras like the 10D/D30 are not as spec'd or tested in this regard. I've seen people guess that it's about half the pro camera numbers but I've never seen anything "official".

What happens on the final click? My T90 displayed something like EEEEEEEE and locked up after about 10 years of use. It took a couple of days and around $100 to get a new shutter block for it.

Some pros I know won't give up on a peice of equipment until they have ground it into little metal shavings

Pekka did a post on this a long long time ago ... and I recently dug it up because I was considering a used D30. Here are his comments:

And here is the full thread:

http://www.photography​-on-the.net …owthread.php?t=​4580#21081

Should be required reading for anyone considering "used."

Regards,

My camera shop is trying to get me a 10D for last 10 days. I understand it was back ordered. Either he forgot to sent in the order, or there is a real shortage.

The 10D has been much easier to get than the D30 or D60,.. and sold many more as well. Some places allways have them is stock,. but in my neck of the woods,. NONE of the local camera shops actually stock them? Odd.

Ah, I have "just" taken some over 23K shots with my D30, but I am not that worried for my cameria is grey so it won't get warrentied anyway. AFAIK, Canon service here is willing to fix anything that is Canon -- for a price. They fixed the clutch problem of my B&H EF100-400mm L IS USM 2 months ago.

I am getting this off my head now...


Griffin.

10D is not in short supply right now if you want one (just got mine). RitzCamera has it for a flat $1499 with no tax and no shipping from anywhere in the U.S.

That's right - even if they have a retail store in your state where they're supposed to charge sales tax, they'll pay it.

Ritz is a huge chain and pretty trustworthy. I'd rather go with them (since there's store 1 mile from me in case things get rough) than hunt down one in some warehouse in NY for $1300 and have to pay a ridiculous amount for shipping and the hard sell (or the unbundling of the charger and other accessories - when they say "body only," they really mean body only).

I'd rather have the peace of mind.

Mitch reported that Pekka previously wrote

"When I was flabbergasted to hear the 20000 limit he started explaining how I would have to shoot 1 roll of film a day for 15 years to get to same amount of shots. I obviously told that digital is a totally different concept - I never count shots. In any case a need to replace a shutter almost every year sounds ridiculous."


But surely at a roll of film a day "20,000 limit" would be reached after 555 days, approximately 1.5 years.


As new 10D owner and having taken almost 2,000 shots in less than a month I'm suddenly thinking that if shutter needs replaced after 20.000 or so exposures that "digital" is not altogether "free"!!

My first digital camera was a Kodak 4800, 4 years later and after about 60K shots it still works like a charm.
Surely 10D should do better!