Give me your quote

Shooting 5 buildings different locations and producing 5 matching 30 x 40 prints (probably metal) to hang in a commercial space.
Yes, I have done my cost of doing business and all that. I know my cost and what I'd like to charge. What I don't know is what I might be up against if they went to someone else for a quote. This thread is sheerly just me doing some "market research".

TIA.

abbypanda wrote in post #17407971
Shooting 5 buildings different locations and producing 5 matching 30 x 40 prints (probably metal) to hang in a commercial space.
Yes, I have done my cost of doing business and all that. I know my cost and what I'd like to charge. What I don't know is what I might be up against if they went to someone else for a quote. This thread is sheerly just me doing some "market research".

TIA.

We need more information to start to offer advise. Start with your location, how much traveling will have to be done to take the photos and how difficult will the photos be to take. Are the buildings in the open enough to easily shoot. Do you have a tilt shift lens to be able to provide the highest quality building photo? All these factors would effect the price you could expect to earn.

In the us. Some out in open others not so much. Some on a second story.
My quote is enough to compensate me to rent a lens I may need, etc . My concern was my quote may have been too high. ***So just looking what others would charge. ***
Most commercial stuff I've done has been digital only. Normally I have 4x markup in prints just seems a big unreasonably high for this jobs oven there's 5 large ones but I may be wrong.
so debating how much of a package deal I might offer for shoot and prints. I feel competent doing the job not looking to debate that.
How much would u charge for a job and the prints? Just quote me off ur average real estate job if u like and if they said give me the shoot and 5 30x40 prints.

Personally, I don't sell architectural photos so I can't help you in that way.

Just trying to help you out by getting you to include more information in your post. Often I see members on this forum ask very general questions and having no one respond to their questions. If you include more information you are just likely to get more participation in my opinion.

to be honest come to think I would have the same dilemma no matter what the job is. I included the job description to "target" the post but to be honest if someone was like "hey I want to hire you to take pictures of me at 5 semi local places in this pose and produce 5 30 x 40 prints.. I'd prob have the same dilemma.... b/c it seems since the scope of the job is detailed up front and the product is known it might be pertinent to include some sort of discount, etc.
It's just a different type of job than I normally do. quite different from a consumer level job and different too from most commercial jobs I'v done as most of those are "digital" type jobs.

So I'd say anyone is willing to chime in regardless of genre. If you're a portrait photographer and a dr hired you to take 5 pics of him doing 5 of his daily tasks or whatever and produce 5 30 x 40 prints, how might you go about quoting that. Let's just open it up more than architecture.

abbypanda wrote in post #17407971
Shooting 5 buildings different locations and producing 5 matching 30 x 40 prints (probably metal) to hang in a commercial space.
Yes, I have done my cost of doing business and all that. I know my cost and what I'd like to charge. What I don't know is what I might be up against if they went to someone else for a quote. This thread is sheerly just me doing some "market research".

TIA.

Metal prints would not be my choice. They have a very short time before they start fading. Look great right out of the box...but give them a year or so and you will notice the fading.

Where are you getting that from? Everything I've read shows Xenon light tests show they have much more image stability than prints. Also they are going somewhere where I have concerns about frames with glass (many hospitals, etc don't use glass) and I'm just not sure I feel comfortable with plexi frames.
I'm curious on your further thoughts on metal prints. I've not had any issues with the ones I have now but I've only had them a few years.

abbypanda wrote in post #17407971
Shooting 5 buildings different locations and producing 5 matching 30 x 40 prints (probably metal) to hang in a commercial space.
Yes, I have done my cost of doing business and all that. I know my cost and what I'd like to charge. What I don't know is what I might be up against if they went to someone else for a quote. This thread is sheerly just me doing some "market research".

TIA.

I'm not a pro, never priced a photography job, but I have prepared hundreds of proposals for clients and also requested quotes from sub-contractors. So I do have some business sense and experience. After reading your iitial post, I couldn't understand what your dilemma was because you stated that, "I know my cost and what I'd like to charge...[But didn't know] if they went to someone else for a quote". It doesn't matter that you might have competitors bidding on the same job, your quote shouldn't change because of that possibility. I believe any quote should be priced to make a profit and to be competitive. To me, that's just good business. One of my contractors would always ask me, "are you getting other bids", as if I didn't realize that he was going to increase his price if I said, No. My response to him was always the same, "yes", regardless of whether I was actually seeking other bids.

If you don't know what you're up against in terms of hours required for the shoot (if you're not in control of your time), then your quote should be for a specific number of hours or days, and your client should understand (in writing) that any additonal services (or time) required to complete the job are extra costs. Best of luck with it. Let us know how it goes.

I was going to post something very similar to what Larry wrote but he beat me to it. I've worked the bidding process from both sides of the fence in industry. All you can do is figure your costs, add a reasonable profit, and submit the bid. I'd assume that the client probably is getting quotes from others as well, they'd be negligent if they didn't - but so what? Don't stress out over every single job, you win some and you lose some.

Nogo wrote in post #17408018
We need more information to start to offer advise. Start with your location, how much traveling will have to be done to take the photos and how difficult will the photos be to take. Are the buildings in the open enough to easily shoot. Do you have a tilt shift lens to be able to provide the highest quality building photo? All these factors would effect the price you could expect to earn.

Depending on which way the buildings face, one good side will be in sunlight while the others might be in shade, so you can't just shoot them all in a few hours or so. Some facing north, might look best on an overcast day.
I'd charge my day rate just for shooting, & it might require more than one day, too. PP & prints would be extra, plus licensing if it was necessary.

While you're right like i said I just don't want my price to be outrageous and for all I know it could be. My costs are figured into selling (1) 30 x 40 b/c that's usually what one might sell in a portrait setting... not 5. At the point of 5 I'm more than compensated for my time to the point I'm concerned I may be slightly high.
You all have some very valid points. When we were fencing in our back yard we had 2 quotes: same job 1 was 1500 more than the other.... for no reason. So naturally our friend (the one $1500 over) lost the job. His price was unreasonably high and it'd have taken him 2x as long to do the job as the mexican company. I don't want to be that person, so just looking for a little "market research" to to speak.

This is something more I was looking for. I know a lot of folks have a day rate that includes digitals, etc but I've never seen anything for prints. ATM my plan is to NOT do them all on the same day. I don't have a strict deadline and I'm free to do them "whenever" she said. So going to look for some overcast days, etc.
With a bare bones half day rate and being conservative on the prints we are still looking at a $5000 plus job **minimum** simply b/c of the volume. If I wanted to charge my full price for each 30 x 40 we'd be closer to the $9000 ball park and I don't feel that's appropriate at all.
I'm calculating the job to be somewhere in the ball park of a 60 hour job by the time it's all said and done and they are all installed but I'll know by the time I shoot the first one if I'm off on that.
Maybe I'm struggling b/c it just seems a lot of $ for pics of old builds for an office suite, as it's not even something customers see? Maybe Im struggling b/c its just not something I can "resonate" with the purpose of and justify the cost to myself whereas other things I can. It's not as if they will even be used for marketing purposes, etc, so no return on investment.
I just don't want to be "that guy" with the outrageously out there quote that people say "what in the world were they thinking with that".

What is the link you put there? When I click it it takes me back to this thread.

Hogloff wrote in post #17408071
Metal prints would not be my choice. They have a very short time before they start fading. Look great right out of the box...but give them a year or so and you will notice the fading.

Is this based on personal experience? None of the prints I have hanging or sold to others have had this problem since 2012.

I'd just charge my day rate plus licence fees. Prints are extra: cost of the print + ~20% markup (plus freight, if the lab's not in my city). That's it. If they don't buy the prints, they get the digital files, so I at least earn something.

Depending on how detailed they want each building, it can be several days, thus several times the day rate.

abbypanda wrote in post #17408619
This is something more I was looking for. I know a lot of folks have a day rate that includes digitals, etc but I've never seen anything for prints. ATM my plan is to NOT do them all on the same day. I don't have a strict deadline and I'm free to do them "whenever" she said. So going to look for some overcast days, etc.
With a bare bones half day rate and being conservative on the prints we are still looking at a $5000 plus job **minimum** simply b/c of the volume. If I wanted to charge my full price for each 30 x 40 we'd be closer to the $9000 ball park and I don't feel that's appropriate at all.
I'm calculating the job to be somewhere in the ball park of a 60 hour job by the time it's all said and done and they are all installed but I'll know by the time I shoot the first one if I'm off on that.
Maybe I'm struggling b/c it just seems a lot of $ for pics of old builds for an office suite, as it's not even something customers see? Maybe Im struggling b/c its just not something I can "resonate" with the purpose of and justify the cost to myself whereas other things I can. It's not as if they will even be used for marketing purposes, etc, so no return on investment.
I just don't want to be "that guy" with the outrageously out there quote that people say "what in the world were they thinking with that".

What is the link you put there? When I click it it takes me back to this thread.

How much rent do those office suites generate per month? Even without knowing the size / sq footage, I can guess it's at least high 5 digit and more than likely 6 digit. Your quote is mid 4's... so less than 1 month of rent. Multiply that by how many years these office suites have been around.... you can see how these properties are worth huge numbers, and paying $x,000 for commissioned prints may not be so bad.

Your number may be a 'big number' compared to how much money you pay in rent / mortgage, but remember that the economies of scale for commercial buildings are massively different.