Tokina 12-24 DXII vs Tokina 16-28

Is it worth the upgrade? I currently own the 12-24 and like it a lot.

Frodge wrote in post #17415053
Is it worth the upgrade? I currently own the 12-24 and like it a lot.

Heya,

The 16-28 is very sharp, great corner performance, etc. Wonderful ultrawide on full frame. Since you're on APS-C, going from 12mm to 16mm is a big deal. You're losing a lot of ultrawide doing that. So unless you find yourself living more on the 20mm side of things, I wouldn't want to lose the ultrawide nature of ultrawide (16mm on APS-C is pretty much what 24mm is on full frame, wide, but not ultrawide). The 12mm of your 12-24 is ultrawide on APS-C. The 16-28 will not be ultrawide on APS-C, just wide to near normal field of view (think 24-50, with some rounding, in full frame field of view equivalency).

The other issue is if you like filters. The 16-28 isn't really conducive to them. Also, while being optically wonderful, still the Tokina flares if you care about that.

What are you looking to "upgrade" about your 12-24?

Very best,

It would be once you get a FF camera (assuming your sig is up to date), but it really doesn't offer anything that your 17-50 already can deliver.

I appreciate the feedback. I'm not looking to go ff. I'm satisfied with my crops. I know that losing that 4mm on the widened is a lot, just wondering how much more sharp it is. I mean, the 12-24 is pretty good in its own right.

Frodge wrote in post #17415209
I appreciate the feedback. I'm not looking to go ff. I'm satisfied with my crops. I know that losing that 4mm on the widened is a lot, just wondering how much more sharp it is. I mean, the 12-24 is pretty good in its own right.

If you want the 2.8, then the 11-16 II is probably sharper and then there is also a new 11-20/2.8 supposed to be available next month.

Yeah, the 11-16 is just too restrictive as a zoom, that's why I initially purchased the 12-24. Who is making the 11-20?

Frodge wrote in post #17415261
Who is making the 11-20?

Tokina. I thought it was supped to be released this month but I'm not sure if that has been pushed back or if thats even the US release

Frodge wrote in post #17415209
I appreciate the feedback. I'm not looking to go ff. I'm satisfied with my crops. I know that losing that 4mm on the widened is a lot, just wondering how much more sharp it is. I mean, the 12-24 is pretty good in its own right.

Heya,

You won't find something that is vastly sharper in the center, stopped down. But you will find things sharper in the corners, stopped down. When I shop ultrawide, I focus on three things. Corner sharpness when stopped down. Coma performance & Flare handling. And the ability to take filters. This may not apply to your use/needs. The 16-28 has sharp wide open, very sharp stopped down, and has excellent corner performance. But it doesn't handle flares great, and it doesn't take standard filters. So while it's optically wonderful, it has two major faults for me.

I used to use the 11-16 F2.8 and I loved that ultrawide. Very sharp. Didn't have the best coma. Didn't handle flare well. But took filters, and was F2.8 for the night sky.

I've since moved to the 10-22, outright traded for it with my Tokina. Handles flares like a dream. Sharp enough stopped down that I don't worry about it (the Tokinas were sharper, but not drastically to the point where I was worried about it). And takes filters. I don't miss the slight sharpness edge my Tokina had. I much appreciate the flare performance the most. And the additional range (10-22 instead of 11-16).

Very best,

It's hard to see what the 16-28 would give you that your 17-50 f2.8 isn't already providing. Based on your current lens line-up, the exchange doesn't seem like it would be worth it, especially if you like your 12-24.

gremlin75 wrote in post #17415299
Tokina. I thought it was supped to be released this month but I'm not sure if that has been pushed back or if thats even the US release

B&H is now showing a Mar 2nd arrival at their store:

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_x_11_20mm_f_2_​8_pro.html

I'm sitting on the fence here. I'd like to score a 11-16 at a reduced price that they are going for now, but I'd like to see a proper review of the 11-20 before committing. I will say that the 82mm filter of the 11-20 is putting me off because I have only 77mm and smaller filters now.