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Mar 17, 2016 12:44 |  #1621

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17938603 (external link)
It isn't a 5DSR thing, it is a Canon MRaw / SRaw thing.

I gotcha, but I would only use MRaw on a 5Ds. Full resolution is fine on a 5D3.


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Mar 17, 2016 12:47 |  #1622

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17938603 (external link)
It isn't a 5DSR thing, it is a Canon MRaw / SRaw thing.

Isn't this a problem with Nikon as well on the D810? And every camera out there? Mraw and sraw sucking.


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Mar 17, 2016 14:16 |  #1623

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Isn't this a problem with Nikon as well on the D810? And every camera out there? Mraw and sraw sucking.

no idea - never shot a Nikon - if I had to guess, assuming they have an MRaw setting, is that Sony sensors are better at shadow recovery so it should be better

when I saw what happened with MRaw,i basically concluded that it is just a jpg format to some extent, and if you are going to shoot jpg, may as well shot one that you like the processing of because if you try and do huge shadow recovery with a jpg you get the same result

there is nothing wrong with shooting jpg if you a) have no idea what you are doing or b) really know what you are doing and are happy with jpg processing

MRaw destroys deep shadow recover and you don't even get a processed jpg to start with so what is the point


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Mar 17, 2016 15:33 |  #1624

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17938677 (external link)
no idea - never shot a Nikon - if I had to guess, assuming they have an MRaw setting, is that Sony sensors are better at shadow recovery so it should be better

when I saw what happened with MRaw,i basically concluded that it is just a jpg format to some extent, and if you are going to shoot jpg, may as well shot one that you like the processing of because if you try and do huge shadow recovery with a jpg you get the same result

there is nothing wrong with shooting jpg if you a) have no idea what you are doing or b) really know what you are doing and are happy with jpg processing

MRaw destroys deep shadow recover and you don't even get a processed jpg to start with so what is the point

I'll answer my own question then. sraw destroys Nikon files, it's a compression problem, not a function of the sensor: https://photographylif​e.com/sraw-format-explained (external link).


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Mar 22, 2016 11:52 |  #1625

Welp, here we go! :-)


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Mar 22, 2016 11:55 |  #1626

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Wow! Hope you like yours as much as I like mine. :) Everyone has different needs and different expectation thresholds, though, so I'll be interested to learn if you find it a good fit for you.


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Mar 22, 2016 11:59 |  #1627

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Wow! Hope you like yours as much as I like mine. :) Everyone has different needs and different expectation thresholds, though, so I'll be interested to learn if you find it a good fit for you.

Yeah, we shall see! I know that high resolution is not needed for all of the work I do, but I do like having that available as an option. I figure with maybe 6 months before the 5DIV is available, this will hold me over until then. When I see the specs on the 5DIV I'll evaluate how things are going at that time.

I am happy I get to use my 70-200 again! That lens never quite worked well enough on my A7R II.


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Mar 25, 2016 16:38 |  #1628

Well, my first photos taken with my 5Ds R were of all my Sony gear to sell it. :-) Seems appropriate.

I'm actually impressed with the shadow recovery. I know it was supposed to be a bit better than the 5D III, but it seems like it's even better than what DXO Mark suggests. Not quite up to Sony level, but I'm happy.


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Mar 25, 2016 16:40 |  #1629

thenextguy wrote in post #17948543 (external link)
Well, my first photos taken with my 5Ds R were of all my Sony gear to sell it. :-) Seems appropriate.

I'm actually impressed with the shadow recovery. I know it was supposed to be a bit better than the 5D III, but it seems like it's even better than what DXO Mark suggests. Not quite up to Sony level, but I'm happy.

yeah, it does seem to be significantly better than my 5d3. didn't do any specific tests though.


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