looking for film grain scanned

hi
i'm looking for a good film gran scanned

in the past i did by myself , i tried to scan TMAX_100,TMAX_400,TRIX​_320,TriX_400


do you know where can i download film with true grain ?

i tried the nik plugins , power retouche , never get good results

maybe free ....


thanks

mantra wrote in post #17432774
hi
i'm looking for a good film gran scanned

in the past i did by myself , i tried to scan TMAX_100,TMAX_400,TRIX​_320,TriX_400


do you know where can i download film with true grain ?

i tried the nik plugins , power retouche , never get good results

maybe free ....


thanks

I'm not quite sure what you are asking for. Are you trying to add film-like grain to a digital image or are you looking to scan a film image and eliminate grain?

rrblint wrote in post #17432938
I'm not quite sure what you are asking for. Are you trying to add film-like grain to a digital image or are you looking to scan a film image and eliminate grain?

hi
i'm tring to add film grain to my black and white
and i used several plugins and photoshop to add grain to my black and white photos
i tried to add in photoshop a layer , softlight ->18% gray + filter ->add noice (monocromatic+gaussian​)

but i really would love to have a true grain film scanned photo to use


photo + scanned grain film (blend softlight)


thanks

Okay, I understand now. I don't know but I would think that a generic, one size fits all, scan of a piece of film would not have the realistic grain patterns matching your image, for each image. Maybe it would work with the right blending mode or if it were brushed on, but I've never tried it.

HERE IS A LINK for software(DXO FilmPack) that you can try for free to see if you like it. It is a stand alone program not a plugin for PS(AFAIK).

rrblint wrote in post #17433759
I don't know but I would think that a generic, one size fits all, scan of a piece of film would not have the realistic grain patterns matching your image, for each image.

A number of software solutions wrongly assume how grain occurs in film! They apply a 'grain texture' uniformly across the image. But if you look closely at real film images under great magnification, you realize that the 'grain density' as well as 'grain size' both decrease in lighter areas of the print, and both increase significantly in darker areas of the print. So a single uniform distribution (density) and single uniform 'grain' size does NOT truly mimic film grain!

Petteri's Grain for Digital Black and White
Scroll down & download the grain file.

You can run DXO FilmPack as a PS plug-in, or you can call the stand-alone application from LR or any other converter that has external editing workflow.

kirk

Here are a couple of 100% crops of a 5D3 image with DXO Film Pack 5 applied, using the default for Kodak Tri-X 400.

kirk

Wilt wrote in post #17438234
A number of software solutions wrongly assume how grain occurs in film! They apply a 'grain texture' uniformly across the image. But if you look closely at real film images under great magnification, you realize that the 'grain density' as well as 'grain size' both decrease in lighter areas of the print, and both increase significantly in darker areas of the print. So a single uniform distribution (density) and single uniform 'grain' size does NOT truly mimic film grain!

Yes Wilt, exactly. After many years of looking at film images under an enlarger with a grain magnifier I knew that this was the case and that was what I was trying to say. Thanks for saying it better.

kirkt wrote in post #17439423
You can run DXO FilmPack as a PS plug-in, or you can call the stand-alone application from LR or any other converter that has external editing workflow.

kirk

Thanks Kirk. I wasn't aware of that. It is now duly noted for future reference.

kirkt wrote in post #17439436
Here are a couple of 100% crops of a 5D3 image with DXO Film Pack 5 applied, using the default for Kodak Tri-X 400.

kirk

Gawd how I detest the absolutely uniform and therefore totally artificial appearance of the digitally added grain, particularly as seen in the shot of the Colorchecker!!!

Wilt wrote in post #17439475
Gawd how I detest the absolutely uniform and therefore totally artificial appearance of the digitally added grain, particularly as seen in the shot of the Colorchecker!!!

You're not alone.

And to think that I used to go out of my way to avoid grainy photos !

Wilt wrote in post #17438234
A number of software solutions wrongly assume how grain occurs in film! They apply a 'grain texture' uniformly across the image. But if you look closely at real film images under great magnification, you realize that the 'grain density' as well as 'grain size' both decrease in lighter areas of the print, and both increase significantly in darker areas of the print. So a single uniform distribution (density) and single uniform 'grain' size does NOT truly mimic film grain!

True. Here's an extreme example using 2475 Recording Film printed on Agfa #6:

IMAGE LINK: http://img.photobucket​.com …0-%20General/Pam-D_01.jpg

Wilt wrote in post #17439475
Gawd how I detest the absolutely uniform and therefore totally artificial appearance of the digitally added grain, particularly as seen in the shot of the Colorchecker!!!

In this low-contrast image rendering it is not surprising. There are no highlights or shadows in those crops. One can boost the contrast and mask the grain with an inverted luminosity mask to amplify the effect if you want.

kirk