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Feb 23, 2015 08:24 |  #1

When I'm searching different catagories I click on the main Topic so I can see the first original image of the post but for what ever reason it takes me to the last posting at the end almost everytime . Does anyone know what is causing this ??




  
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Feb 23, 2015 09:29 |  #2

It's by design. On multi-page threads where you've already read everything the more likely scenario is that you'll be wanting to add something to the thread. If it's a multi-page thread you always have the option of clicking on the "page 1" link following the thread title. If it's a single page, once you've entered the thread clicking in the left or right margin will bring you to the top of that page.


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Feb 23, 2015 10:49 |  #3

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If it's a multi-page thread you always have the option of clicking on the "page 1" link following the thread title.

Yes, exactly. You always have the option of clicking on "FIRST PAGE" or "LAST PAGE".
Unless, of course, it is only a one page thread.

If you want to see the first page of a thread, then all you need to do is click on the words "FIRST PAGE". It works great!


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Feb 23, 2015 17:34 |  #4

In addition to the other replies, if you have marked a forum as being all read, clicking on the title will take you to either the first new post since marking all as read or to the last post if there aren't new posts.


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Feb 24, 2015 06:02 |  #5

Celestron wrote in post #17445475 (external link)
I click on the main Topic so I can see the first original image of the post but for what ever reason it takes me to the last posting at the end almost everytime . Does anyone know what is causing this ??


Jon wrote in post #17445553 (external link)
It's by design. On multi-page threads where you've already read everything the more likely scenario is that you'll be wanting to add something to the thread. If it's a multi-page thread you always have the option of clicking on the "page 1" link following the thread title. If it's a single page, once you've entered the thread clicking in the left or right margin will bring you to the top of that page.

It probably would have been useful to read the post for understanding. At least in this post he is talking about images.

The replies pertain mostly to discussion threads.

And for my own usage I have to agree - in the case of image sharing threads, the design is bad.

When viewing an image sharing thread for the second or greater time, more often than not I click the thread title because I want to see the original image being shared, not the end of 25 discussions about it. And that's where the system takes you. Again, JMHO, but a bad design in the use of image sharing threads.


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Feb 24, 2015 06:05 |  #6

Since we already have 2 other ways to get to the last set of replies (either use the 'go to first unseen' link on the post listing page or 'traverse unseen') I think just clicking the original thread link could intuitively take you to the first post. I see it either way.


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Feb 24, 2015 08:07 |  #7

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #17447075 (external link)
It probably would have been useful to read the post for understanding. At least in this post he is talking about images.

The replies pertain mostly to discussion threads.

And for my own usage I have to agree - in the case of image sharing threads, the design is bad.

When viewing an image sharing thread for the second or greater time, more often than not I click the thread title because I want to see the original image being shared, not the end of 25 discussions about it. And that's where the system takes you. Again, JMHO, but a bad design in the use of image sharing threads.


Exactly , perfectly right in what I was asking . Thanks PNC . What I have found that if there is more than one page there is a link that says "Go To First Unread" , no Go to First post . Even then when I come to check here a second time I clicked the Title cause there was no link saying anything , so I click the Tile and it takes me to the last message in the topic .




  
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Feb 24, 2015 08:34 |  #8

It only takes you to something other then the first post if you have already seen or read the post, image thread or discussion thread it does not matter.




  
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Feb 24, 2015 09:21 |  #9

Celestron wrote in post #17447200 (external link)
Even then when I come to check here a second time I clicked the Title cause there was no link saying anything......

There was no "link saying anything" because this is only a one page thread. It wouldn't make any sense if the site gave you the option of going to the first page or the last page when there is only the one page.

Celestron wrote in post #17447200 (external link)
.... so I click the Tile and it takes me to the last message in the topic .

Are you sure about that? It is designed to take you to the first UNREAD POST in the thread, if you are following the thread. If you have followed up on the thread whenever replies are made, then the first unread post may happen to also be the last post in the thread, but whenever there are two or more unread posts, clicking on the thread title should take you to the first of these (provided you are following the post, and accessing the post via the purple NEW POSTS dropdown menu.)

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.... so I click the Tile and it takes me to the last message in the topic .

But if it is a one page thread, what is the difference? When you click on the topic, the site takes you to that topic's page. What is the issue with whether it takes you to the top of the page or the bottom of the page? Would you actually complain about having to scroll up or down? This takes less than half a second, and is effortless. The pages here are (thankfully) short, with only 15 posts per page. So what if you have to scroll a few inches up or down?

Pekka even added a great feature (yes, it is great) that allows you to go back up to the top by simply clicking anywhere in the margins (either the left or right margin will work). So, if the site takes you to the bottom of a page, and you wanted to be at the top of the page, then all you need to do is to put the cursor anywhere in a margin and click.....presto! - you're now at the top.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
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Feb 24, 2015 10:51 |  #10

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17447309 (external link)
There was no "link saying anything" because this is only a one page thread. It wouldn't make any sense if the site gave you the option of going to the first page or the last page when there is only the one page.

Doesn't matter if it's one page or 1000 pages . If i have read anything in the post previous or maybe i see a post with multiple pages and maybe once i clicked the last person to just see what he says then i go back and click the Title to see something in th first post it automatically takes me to the last page and post .

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17447309 (external link)
Are you sure about that? It is designed to take you to the first UNREAD POST in the thread, if you are following the thread. If you have followed up on the thread whenever replies are made, then the first unread post may happen to also be the last post in the thread, but whenever there are two or more unread posts, clicking on the thread title should take you to the first of these (provided you are following the post, and accessing the post via the purple NEW POSTS dropdown menu.)

Doesn't matter if i'm following or not .

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17447309 (external link)
But if it is a one page thread, what is the difference? When you click on the topic, the site takes you to that topic's page. What is the issue with whether it takes you to the top of the page or the bottom of the page? Would you actually complain about having to scroll up or down? This takes less than half a second, and is effortless. The pages here are (thankfully) short, with only 15 posts per page. So what if you have to scroll a few inches up or down?


If i have read it once and i click the title it should just take me to the first post of the Topic .

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17447309 (external link)
Pekka even added a great feature (yes, it is great) that allows you to go back up to the top by simply clicking anywhere in the margins (either the left or right margin will work). So, if the site takes you to the bottom of a page, and you wanted to be at the top of the page, then all you need to do is to put the cursor anywhere in a margin and click.....presto! - you're now at the top.

That's swell you can click in the margins to go up . You explained part of the reason in your first posting and i appreciate it . But why do you seem so upset when you may not have completely understood in my original post ? All i want to know is whether i have read all the topic or maybe just the very last post of a topic once before and there is a picture posted in the very first original post and If i go back to the catagory list and click the topic name because i want to see the pict(s) again it automatically takes me back to the end of the page reguardless if it's ONE page or One Hundred Pages ? You already answered anyway when you said in your first post that "that is the way it is designed to do" . Well this is the only forum on anywhere on the Internet that does that and that is why i was asking to start with "Why Does It Do That ?" . I may have read the topic and all post and there maybe 5 pages and it takes me to the last post of the topic on the last page , BUT..... sometimes i want to see the picts again in the first original post so i scroll top top , click on the link to the first page BUT it takes me back to the bottom last post of the last page of the topic .... , what then ? Thanks for your input .




  
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Feb 24, 2015 13:14 |  #11

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.... Well this is the only forum on anywhere on the Internet that does that ...

There are numerous other forum software packages in addition to AMASS where clicking on the title takes you to the first unread post. At some point, you learned to use vBulletin software and adapted to it. You can choose to do the same with any other forum software.


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Feb 24, 2015 14:08 |  #12

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17447309 (external link)
Pekka even added a great feature (yes, it is great) that allows you to go back up to the top by simply clicking anywhere in the margins (either the left or right margin will work). So, if the site takes you to the bottom of a page, and you wanted to be at the top of the page, then all you need to do is to put the cursor anywhere in a margin and click.....presto! - you're now at the top.

It is a very cool feature. The only problem is when viewing other sites I keep clicking in the margins and nothing happens. Then I realize it only works here. :-)




  
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Feb 24, 2015 14:27 as a reply to  @ Celestron's post |  #13

I'll dissect your requirements here:

All i want to know is

whether i have read all the topic or maybe just the very last post of a topic once before

and

there is a picture posted in the very first original post

and

If i go back to the catagory list and click the topic name because i want to see the pict(s) again

it automatically takes me

back to the end of the page reguardless if it's ONE page or One Hundred Pages ?

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Every thread you open is added to read marking system. If you follow a thread you get per-post level read marking where skipped posts are added to unseen list. If you do not follow a thread you get per-page readmarking and on the last page timestamped read marking, this I call "vanilla read marking".

As you have visited the thread before, it shows you the latest post because the read marking does its job. The software can not guess what you want (on this thread I want to see the first post first).

The ONLY problem I see and what must be solved, is that when there is only one page in a thread, there is no [page 1] command next to the thread name, which would normally take you to top of page 1. If that would be added there, that would solve your problem, right?


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Feb 24, 2015 16:11 |  #14

Pekka wrote in post #17447749 (external link)
I'll dissect your requirements here:

All i want to know is

whether i have read all the topic or maybe just the very last post of a topic once before

and

there is a picture posted in the very first original post

and

If i go back to the catagory list and click the topic name because i want to see the pict(s) again

it automatically takes me

back to the end of the page reguardless if it's ONE page or One Hundred Pages ?

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So,

Every thread you open is added to read marking system. If you follow a thread you get per-post level read marking where skipped posts are added to unseen list. If you do not follow a thread you get per-page readmarking and on the last page timestamped read marking, this I call "vanilla read marking".

As you have visited the thread before, it shows you the latest post because the read marking does its job. The software can not guess what you want (on this thread I want to see the first post first).

The ONLY problem I see and what must be solved, is that when there is only one page in a thread, there is no [page 1] command next to the thread name, which would normally take you to top of page 1. If that would be added there, that would solve your problem, right?


Thanks for your reply Mr. Pekka . What would solve mine and many others is when we click any Topic name and it would just take me directly to the first post on the first page , reguardless if i have read everything or not .

If i want to go to the last post of the last page i should be able to just click like before where the name of the last person that posted in that complete tiopic was shown on the far right column and it would take me to that members last post of the complete topic . Really does not matter how many pages there is in a topic .

Example if i make a new Topic with a picture in the first post and there is only 5 replies , i have no problems clicking the Topic Title and scrolling down to read the replies . But if i have maybe 6 pages of replies and i have read all i want then next time i click the notifications and choose to go straight to the last post i have no problems . But if i want to edit or read my first post again , i should be able to just click the Title and go straight to the first post on the first page .

The way it is now is if i click the Title , since i have already read to the end once before then it takes me directly to the last page , last post , reguardless what i click . Hopefully this is more understanding .

Main thing is there is no big problem , just misunderstanding . It's a big change from the old forum to this new forum . For the most part i really like it . Just some tweaking would help others especially older folks like me to navigate more easily . Thanks for your attention and hope i have not caused a problem .




  
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Feb 24, 2015 16:25 |  #15

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Thanks for your reply Mr. Pekka . What would solve mine and many others is when we click any Topic name and it would just take me directly to the first post on the first page , reguardless if i have read everything or not .

The big question is: how many people REALLY would want thread title behave the way you describe?

I just wonder if many members have been now accustomed to the current way, in that case changing it would need a setting in FYEO.


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