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Feb 25, 2015 16:21 |  #1

Hi all, I have a 5D MK3 but am looking for something lighter & easier to carry for travelling etc. have been looking at a G1X MK2 but am open to suggestions as to what people think will be as close to a DSLR as possible.

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Feb 25, 2015 22:43 |  #2

I was set on the G7x when it came out and then tossed between the G7x and G1x II then was set again on the G7X again.

I just picked up the G1x II and I love it. IQ between the G1XII and G7X was very similar in in ISO 100-3200. At 6400, the G1XII was cleaner but both were use able and at ISO 12800, the G1XII was cleaner then the G7x. I only had limited shots so that is all I can comment on it and without more test, I can't say much more since I only have one and I don't want to be that guy that keeps going into a store to test out a camera I'm not buying.

The reason I choose the G1XII was longer Zoom, hotshoe, flash can bounce, dual rings, lens can take filter with an adapter ring, and felt better in my hands.

The G7x is smaller but the features were more important to me. The dual ring makes manual adjustment easier and manual focus easier. Also with the ability to accept filters with a simple adapter is a big plus for me.


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Feb 26, 2015 13:49 |  #3

Many thanks for your reply. Just what I wanted to hear :-)


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Feb 26, 2015 17:05 |  #4

I replaced an S95 with a G7X. Pretty much the same logic as RHChan84, but the pocket size was more important to me. I don't have a lot of pics with it yet, but it's about as easy to use as the S95, just a little bit bigger, and amazingly faster. It's still a good pocket size, which makes it perfect for travel, or anytime that a DSLR wouldn't be allowed or would be intrusive. Went back and forth between the G7X and a Sony RX100III, and ultimately went with the Canon for a little more zoom and a lot of familiar feel.

I don't think you can go wrong with either of them; it just depends on whether features or size are more important to you.


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Feb 27, 2015 17:17 |  #5

Hmmmmmmm G7X. Is this the smaller of the two?


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Feb 27, 2015 17:42 |  #6

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Hmmmmmmm G7X. Is this the smaller of the two?

Yes.


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Feb 28, 2015 02:48 |  #7

Ok, Thank you. Will see if my local camera shop have both to look at :)


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Feb 28, 2015 02:57 |  #8

I suggest EOS-M3 with adapter to your regular EF glasses (Comes in the kit). That is if you can put hand on one. EOS-M2 with kit including adapter should be readily available for $500-600 and original EOS again in kit with adaptor for under $400.


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Feb 28, 2015 04:05 |  #9

Frosticles wrote in post #17449721 (external link)
Hi all, I have a 5D MK3 but am looking for something lighter & easier to carry for travelling etc. have been looking at a G1X MK2 but am open to suggestions as to what people think will be as close to a DSLR as possible.

All comments & suggestions greatly received.

Many thanks, Kevin

Have you considered the Canon SL1/100D? For about the same money as. G7X you can get a 100D with a kit lens that will be much closer in form and function to your 5D3. It will accept all the lenses, flashes and accessories from your 5D3 without an adapter, and the image quality is outstanding. This is what I carry as my lightweight kit, although I also have an S95 if I truely need a pocket camera.


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Feb 28, 2015 11:28 |  #10

Not sure if OP is on the same boat as me but I was looking for a travel camera with at least a 24-100 range and the G1X has a 24-120mm range and still much smaller then a SL1 with 24-105.

I have considered the SL1 and EOS-M but all still had the issue with the size and then of course to carry lens. I travel a lot and an extra bag for my camera gear is just too much to carry. The G1XII is about the size of the SL1 body and still with a 24-105 F2-3.9 lens attached. I know if it's a change to go from a DSLR to that but for me, it was well worth it for the size and no more cell phone photos.

The G1x II will take any canon flash and they have an adapter for 58mm filters and I have step up rings for that. The other reason I chose the G1x was the 1.5" sensor for better low light and similar IQ to my 60D.

Having it for about 2 weeks and walking around the city of Cambridge in the UK, it was pretty nice to have that small body but still have good IQ. I wished I bought the camera when it first came out.


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Mar 01, 2015 16:33 |  #11

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Not sure if OP is on the same boat as me but I was looking for a travel camera with at least a 24-100 range and the G1X has a 24-120mm range and still much smaller then a SL1 with 24-105.

I have considered the SL1 and EOS-M but all still had the issue with the size and then of course to carry lens. I travel a lot and an extra bag for my camera gear is just too much to carry. The G1XII is about the size of the SL1 body and still with a 24-105 F2-3.9 lens attached. I know if it's a change to go from a DSLR to that but for me, it was well worth it for the size and no more cell phone photos.

The G1x II will take any canon flash and they have an adapter for 58mm filters and I have step up rings for that. The other reason I chose the G1x was the 1.5" sensor for better low light and similar IQ to my 60D.

Having it for about 2 weeks and walking around the city of Cambridge in the UK, it was pretty nice to have that small body but still have good IQ. I wished I bought the camera when it first came out.


Thank you. This is exactly my quandary. I do not want another body with detachable lenses as this will defeat my objective as my lenses are bloody heavy!!!
I had a look in Jessops yesterday at both the G1X MK2 & the G7X. I prefer the G7X's size but like everything else about the G1X.


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Thank you. This is exactly my quandary. I do not want another body with detachable lenses as this will defeat my objective as my lenses are bloody heavy!!!
I had a look in Jessops yesterday at both the G1X MK2 & the G7X. I prefer the G7X's size but like everything else about the G1X.

Go look and play with it. The G1XII is only slightly bigger then the G7x. The reasons I chose the G1X is the ability to take filters and use Canon flash. There is also a VF for it but it's $300 so I will wait for that to go down. Ultimately it will be up to you on which one you choose.

Panasonic LX100 was another option but limited zoom and since both are in the 13MP range, cropping is what I want to do a lot.

Also another reason I chose the G1X was the ability to take the flash and bounce it by holding it upwards. Can't do that on the G7x.


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Mar 02, 2015 12:45 |  #13

I have a 5d mk3, but i too wanted something that will allow me long walks and climbs.
You will probably find the ISO noise more acceptable on the G1x and has the advantage of that great lens over the longer range.
The G7x obviously will be slightly smaller and lighter but it does have some purple fringing in high contrast but this can be fixed in the software.
For IQ especially in low light most people prefer the G1x, the G7x is a very good camera but for me has limitations when pushed to the difficult condition.


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Mar 02, 2015 13:25 |  #14

I replaced a G9 with a G16 a year ago. I needed something that was strictly grab-n-go, was affordable, and wasn't going to cause a lot of angst if it got damaged or stolen. The G16 has full manual controls, and was/is priced to be affordable. At $500, it's $150-$300 less than the G7 X, G1 X, and G1 X Mk II.

The G16 is a great little camera. For stills, it can go to ISO 6400. Beyond that, IQ is terrible. Fwiw, I push my 5DM3 hard and occasionally go to ISO 25,600, so pushing ISO isn't a problem for me. If the camera can do it, great. The G16 is good only to ISO 6400.

The effective focal length is 28-140mm, which is quite good. I've used it a couple times in NYC and once at Walt Disney World.

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For video, I generally don't know anything about it. That said, the G16 can do HD video. The G16 has twin microphones built into the top of the camera. They're sufficiently good that they can provide stereo separation, and the quality is quite acceptable, given this is a simple camera. How well it handles wind noise I have no idea.

NOTE: No matter what you get for a G camera, you may find your G camera will coddle you beyond what you want. For instance, the G16 allows manual focus, as did its predecessor in my home, the G9. With the G9, if you messed up focus, you messed up focus. I have no problem with that. With the G16, if it thinks you messed up focus, it will automatically refocus for you. This is not amusing in the slightest. If I'm on manual focus, I expect the camera to be on that - manual focus. This coddle "feature" can be turned off, but by default it is turned on. Whether this is on the other G cameras I don't know, but being PowerShot cameras I suspect they may be.

For me, the bottom line is the G16 is a great little travel camera that can take the place of my 5DM3 when needed. The price is right for me, the capabilities are what I need for the things and places I shoot, and I have never regretted getting this over the other Gs.

Good luck! Hope this helps.


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Mar 05, 2015 09:12 |  #15

Many thanks for all of your help with this. I have finally pressed the button on an ex-demo G1X MK2 for £399. It arrived yesterday but I am still waiting for the memory card to arrive so I can have a play.

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