I still can't cope with the design

Pekka wrote in post #17467244
In forum pages "MARK READ" should do it.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=8
That command gives you a choice to mark only current forum read, or all.

Where did you look for that command?

On the bottom of New Posts page https://photography-on-the.net/forum/newposts​.php you have also a direct command to "MARK ALL FORUMS READ".

The New Posts thing will work. I didn't know to look for it there. On the old board, there was a button at the bottom to mark all forums read. Thanks for letting me know where to do it at now.

For every post complaining about the change from now on, I'm going to state what I love. Counter point balance.

I love this forum so much more since the change to Amass. Before I didn't share much photography on POTN. I found myself constantly reading the gear/equipment threads since they were the forums featured prominently at the top.

Since the change I browse so many more of the other sub forums. I've learned from and enjoyed so many new areas, from macro photography to astronomy and nature photography, in fact all of the sub forums. I navigate through so many more areas than I did before. I have absolutely zero forums filtered keeping all reading, viewing, learning and enjoyment possibilities open. I have been enjoying other fellow photographers work so much more now that the forum seems more photographically centered, as opposed to gear/equipment or brand centered.

The style is clean, minimalistic, no ads (amazing) and so easy on the eyes. The creator of this place is so gifted in multiple areas of creativity it's truly awe inspiring. I don't know how you create forum software from scratch and do it so (expletive-ly) amazingly, but it has been done. It's like creating a small universe.

The image sharing is bar none the best of any internet forum I have ever experienced. Every photo just looks amazing. Perfectly scaled, click to view full screen, not like other forums where you click to view larger and it just opens in another window at the same size and then you can't get back to the original page you were looking at. Easy to add images to your gallery, every photo has metadata options. The gallery on the side of sub-forums is frequently taking me to new subject-specific threads I hadn't seen before and showing me what fellow photographers are out there creating and capturing right now.

This is the best place ever, Amass, Pekka and his skills, ability and time he generously shares with us to make this place mind-blowing-amazing, POTN, and hateraide.

nqjudo wrote in post #17466249
To talk in design terms you are painting with a very broad brush. Professionals make bad design choices all the time.

That's correct, pros do make make mistakes sometimes.
Untrained people make nothing but mistakes, though .

koala yummies wrote in post #17467532
For every post complaining about the change from now on, I'm going to state what I love. Counter point balance.

I love this forum so much more since the change to Amass. Before I didn't share much photography on POTN. I found myself constantly reading the gear/equipment threads since they were the forums featured prominently at the top.

Since the change I browse so many more of the other sub forums. I've learned from and enjoyed so many new areas, from macro photography to astronomy and nature photography, in fact all of the sub forums. I navigate through so many more areas than I did before. I have absolutely zero forums filtered keeping all reading, viewing, learning and enjoyment possibilities open. I have been enjoying other fellow photographers work so much more now that the forum seems more photographically centered, as opposed to gear/equipment or brand centered.

The style is clean, minimalistic, no ads (amazing) and so easy on the eyes. The creator of this place is so gifted in multiple areas of creativity it's truly awe inspiring. I don't know how you create forum software from scratch and do it so (expletive-ly) amazingly, but it has been done. It's like creating a small universe.

The image sharing is bar none the best of any internet forum I have ever experienced. Every photo just looks amazing. Perfectly scaled, click to view full screen, not like other forums where you click to view larger and it just opens in another window at the same size and then you can't get back to the original page you were looking at. Easy to add images to your gallery, every photo has metadata options. The gallery on the side of sub-forums is frequently taking me to new subject-specific threads I hadn't seen before and showing me what fellow photographers are out there creating and capturing right now.

This is the best place ever, Amass, Pekka and his skills, ability and time he generously shares with us to make this place mind-blowing-amazing, POTN, and hateraide.

Pekka is sure lucky to have you as a friend, for all the nonsense you are spreading . If he can bear the drivel and wants to be associated with it.

In the meantime, my suggestions would be to keep it simple, or rather go back to simple.

Pekka, or whoever is in charge here, provides a great service to photographers by hosting this message board ; but at this point it is obvious he can't change the design and interface by himself .

Petersman wrote in post #17467591
That's correct, pros do make make mistakes sometimes.
Untrained people make nothing but mistakes, though .

Nonsense.

I do all kinds of things well that I've never been "trained" to do. Most people can.

Perhaps you're an exception.

Petersman wrote in post #17467591
Pekka is sure lucky to have you as a friend, for all the nonsense you are spreading . If he can bear the drivel and wants to be associated with it.

In the meantime, my suggestions would be to keep it simple, or rather go back to simple.

Pekka, or whoever is in charge here, provides a great service to photographers by hosting this message board ; but at this point it is obvious he can't change the design and interface by himself .

Since this forum gives you a headache every time you visit, as stated in your original post. Perhaps it would be wise not to visit.

That's pretty simple.

Petersman wrote in post #17467591
That's correct, pros do make make mistakes sometimes.
Untrained people make nothing but mistakes, though .

Pekka is sure lucky to have you as a friend, for all the nonsense you are spreading . If he can bear the drivel and wants to be associated with it.

In the meantime, my suggestions would be to keep it simple, or rather go back to simple.

Pekka, or whoever is in charge here, provides a great service to photographers by hosting this message board ; but at this point it is obvious he can't change the design and interface by himself .

I have responded politely, patiently and factually to all criticism, you will now be an exception to the rule. What utter bs! I've seen zero suggestions in your posts, just intentional hate talk (perhaps driven by envy). Maybe you get kicks from it, who knows, but it will not lead to anything ...or maybe it will: just FYI: I have designed a simple ban button, too, personal attacks and trolling are against our rules.

OhLook wrote in post #17466553

Pekka wrote in post #17466338
Let's take some specific pages to discuss THE DESIGN in detail.

Please specify in detail what is wrong with these pages, and I'll get a better view of your opinions:
. . .
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.ph​p?short
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.ph​p?full

This line, in boldface and all caps,

379,712 MEMBERS, 17,258,745 POSTS, 1,379,152 THREADS, 1,731,674,035 THREAD VIEWS (and counting).

is too prominent. It grabs my attention every time I come in, and it isn't what I come for. I believe it was more subtle (not bold?) in AMASS! 1.0.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/fyeo.php

The line FOR YOUR EYES ONLY at left, near top, is horizontally squashed. It needs letterspacing. In the many heads on this page, I would have capped the first initial only: "Threads you have visited" instead of "Threads You Have Visited" and the items in the column. Less capping makes easier reading, as shown in studies on the effectiveness of design choices in print advertising.

(As you know, I liked Jenna Sue, and there's very little of it now.)

On the RTAT page, 2 or 3 points of additional leading just below the J. Sue head would help a lot.

I have changed above in 1.33, thanks.

Needed to Google boustrophedonic

Of course there are and will be. But for a while I'm doing only minor and gradual changes.

Bob_A wrote in post #17467113
Agree that there are some consistency issues. "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY" should be JS to match the other pages. Also, when going through the list on the left hand side of FYEO the titles of the pages that come up vary quite a bit with regards to which words are capitalized.

I have changed capitalization to be more consistent in many places for the next version. It is better.

The member title changes to Jenna Sue if it is given by Title Fairy. The font may change also on TF titles if they are using words in Caps. The member title can really be tuned to look like anything, like in https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?m=36606. It is by design that it is "personal" looking.

To the right of the username on a member page I have planned some extra content so I won't put the member title adjacent to the name (and as the length and style of the title varies so much if would look odd there).

Thanks for the comments. Very helpful.

I'm an old fart (73 in June). And I'm a guy, so I never read instructions. So I hate the new look, right?

Wrong! I love the new look and the new functionality. Although I understand that email notifications will be coming soon, I don't care about them any more now that there are notifications on the top of the page.

Since I don't read instructions (it's cheating) I'm following my lifelong approach to something new: "Let's screw with it and see what happens".

Having fun!

Nice piece of work, Pekka!

-js

Pekka wrote in post #17469110
The member title changes to Jenna Sue if it is given by Title Fairy. The font may change also on TF titles if they are using words in Caps. The member title can really be tuned to look like anything, like in https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?m=36606. It is by design that it is "personal" looking.

What about my TF blessed title? You can't even read it all.

Nathan wrote in post #17469162
What about my TF blessed title? You can't even read it all.

I guess you mean that it does not fit in the space under the avatar (in https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?m=115908 it is ok)? If TF added spaces into it it would wrap, I can ask here if you like

Pekka wrote in post #17469193
I guess you mean that it does not fit in the space under the avatar (in https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?m=115908 it is ok)? If TF added spaces into it it would wrap, I can ask here if you like

You really know the TF? WW!

Petersman wrote in post #17467591
That's correct, pros do make make mistakes sometimes.
Untrained people make nothing but mistakes, though .

Pekka is sure lucky to have you as a friend, for all the nonsense you are spreading . If he can bear the drivel and wants to be associated with it.

In the meantime, my suggestions would be to keep it simple, or rather go back to simple.

Pekka, or whoever is in charge here, provides a great service to photographers by hosting this message board ; but at this point it is obvious he can't change the design and interface by himself .

In addition, no one here has said anything insulting to any one in this thread, except for you.
Now you have insulted a forum member directly, a large group of forum members indirectly, and my Boss.

Have a care, this is simply not allowed on this forum.
We have rules here and regardless of your opinions on design, you must follow them to continue posting.

Petersman wrote in post #17467591
That's correct, pros do make make mistakes sometimes.
Untrained people make nothing but mistakes, though .

I do not agree with you for many reasons.

Just out of interest since you have such thoughts, why do you believe your statement is correct?

Pekka wrote in post #17469110
I have changed above in 1.33, thanks.

Thank you! I believe that the additional spacing will restore some of the clean, airy look that fans of AMASS! 1.0 miss in the later versions.

Needed to Google boustrophedonic

"As the ox plows." It's one of my favorite words, and chances to use it are so rare.

Pekka wrote in post #17469110
Thanks for the comments. Very helpful.

Glad to help Pekka. These are pretty minor little nits, but I'll make sure I let you know if I see any others.

It took a bit of getting used to initially....BUT....th​is site has never stopped improving!

I don't even think about it anymore.