If you have Full Frame, did you still keep your Crop Body?

On a 5D3 (and most EOS that I know of) the default dial for aperture is the rear big dial, while the top main dial is by default for shutter speed.. (EDIT When set to MANUAL)

It could have been that the rear dial was disabled?

Because I used to shoot AV more than anything else combined, I expect the top main dial to adjust aperture and thus have all my bodies set to swap in Manual so top dial is aperture, and rear dial is shutter.

I can assure whatever the issue was with that camera, it is not a fault of the 5D3.

Now the lack of a useable AF point lighting on the 5D3 is a real problem! There is nothing that will fix it.

I figured the rear dial must have controlled aperture and was probably disabled or customized for something else. Coming from a T4i, just the thought of having one touch control over aperture in M mode is liberating.

Thanks again for the reply.

Yes and use it when I shoot events. I usually have a 24-100mm on my FF and 70-200mm on my APS-C.

Steve Ruddy wrote in post #18916273
Yes and use it when I shoot events. I usually have a 24-100mm on my FF and 70-200mm on my APS-C.

What make is that 24-100mm?

Noticed this a rather old thread. But to chime in, I never bought another crop body after going to full frame, and my 5DS has a crop setting, although I don't use it, at least not yet.

mdvaden wrote in post #18916402
What make is that 24-100mm?

Noticed this a rather old thread. But to chime in, I never bought another crop body after going to full frame, and my 5DS has a crop setting, although I don't use it, at least not yet.

Sorry my error. It’s actually Canon’s newest version of f4 24-105. It’s either a huge improvement or I had a bad example before.

Thinking of getting either a 5Div or 1DXii to complement a crop.
With two lens would be able to get four focal length....

Was talking to a friend about this the other day, we were both talking about how we never sell any gear, except for the fact that we both sold our Rebel bodies when we upgraded to 5d Mark IIs years ago, we have since both added full frame bodies to our respective gear collections (6D Mark II for me, 5D Mark IV for him) but have both held onto the 5D MIIs.

Although a very old thread, the OP's question can still be entertained today, so I'll also chime in:

Canon 40D was my first DSLR. I still have it, and I still like it, and I'm going to keep it. Wanting a full frame, I added 5D III along the way. When I got really tired of Waiting for Godot called 7D III as an upgrade to 40D for birding and wildlife, I upgraded 5D III to 5D IV for birding and wildlife and everything else. Figuring that there's 99% chance that I won't ever see 7D III, I then decided to go for the newly released 90D specifically for birding and wildlife while 5D IV will be relegated mostly to my studio work.

Agreeing with SYS, who states

Yes, I have kept my 50D.

While I began with a PowerShot S3iS, I next moved to a Rebel XTi(400D), then a 40D,
and next to a 50D. Because the S3iS is so well-suited to certain operations
such as HDR bracketing with CHDK in use, I re-acquired one a couple years
after acquiring the 50D, and still use it.

My previous regimen was to sell off older to fund newer.
The XTi(400D) was purchased as refurbished, for roughly $500.
The successive 40D and 50D were also purchased at roughly $500,
with both being partially funded by selling then-current gear.
Both XXD-series cameras were purchased used.

An unexpected and most-certainly unintentional inheritance allowed me
to finally purchase a used full-frame, a 5D4. I spent nearly 4x what I've spent prior
on a camera! $500 was much easier to justify and obtain, while the inheritance
allowed me to finally justify the expenditure on a recent FF model.

The 50D will be kept, if only to use with a Sigma 10-20 lens.
I've also considered converting it to infrared, with a DIY kit.
The 50D remains a capable camera, while I am now able to
entertain options with which I would not have considered before.

I bought a crop (7D2) body to go with my FF (5D3). I needed a second body and, at that time, didn't want to spend enough to buy another FF, plus I reasoned that having a crop body with different capabilities would broaden my options.

I mostly shoot motorsports and this combo works really well for me. I generally (depending on the type of event) put my 24-70 or 70-200 on the 5D3, then the 100-400 on the 7D2. I carry them on a dual harness and, so far at least, I find that I rarely need to change lenses. Given that I often shoot in dusty conditions, this is important.

I do notice the difference in IQ, especially since I bought the 24-70 f/2.8 MKII which, when bolted on the 5D3, produces beautiful results (as does the 70-200). The 7D2's amazing AF and frame rate arguably brings the equasion back into balance though.

I think I have found a very comfortable 'sweet spot' in my photography, with the suite of bodies and lenses I own, allowing me to shoot a huge variety of subjects in different environments. This, coupled with my inability to work with the weight of bigger, heavier lenses these days (arthritis) means I can't see any need to buy more gear in the forseeable future.

Well, after initial testing of the new 90D, it's going back to the store. It wasn't what I hoped it'd be.

SYS wrote in post #18932023
Well, after initial testing of the new 90D, it's going back to the store. It wasn't what I hoped it'd be.

Would you care to elaborate?

I'm sure more than a few of us would like to know your thoughts.

SkedAddled wrote in post #18932048
Would you care to elaborate?

I'm sure more than a few of us would like to know your thoughts.

Keep in mind that I purchased 90D to go specifically with my Sigma 150-600C for birding and wildlife. Prior to this, I used 5D IV with the Sigma, so my comments are in reference to my experience with 5D IV.

My initial findings showed two major disappointments:

1) Noise, noise, noise. At ISO 800, noise is quite apparent, so NR to deal with in PP. It just gets worse at higher ISO. To me personally, Auto ISO was unusable when it jumps to high ISO because of too much noise.

2) Lots of hit and miss with focusing and resulting sharp images. Hand-holding at 1/600sec, which was no problem with 5D IV, yielded zero keepers. It improved at the minimum 1/1000sec hand held and improved more still on tripod. Of course, hand-held results would be quite different with lenses with IS.

3) Underexposed photos, I found, are harder to salvage in PP or simply unsalvageable. With 5D IV underexposed images, I can bring them back to life, no problem.

I now realize that I've been very much spoiled by 5D IV unaware, so my findings on 90D is because I'm coming from 5D IV. If you're coming from 70D or 80D, I'm sure everything about 90D would appear an improvement, so no disappointments to deal with. I know that it's not fair to compare a full frame to a crop body, but that's the only experiential reference point I have.

I'd be inclined to keep the camera if I only had the issue 2), but 1) isn't simply acceptable for me. For birding and wildlife, one has to use high ISO very often, and I don't want to battle the noise in PP all the time with 90D.

It would be expected that the 90d would be over one stop worse in ISO performance than the 5d4. That isn't too surprising. However when equalizing for resolution between the FF and crop, and by FOV, that difference should shrink a bit. The 90d seems to have the low ISO DR of the 80d, but high ISO of the 7d2.

The only way you could see the difference in shutter speed results would be if you are zooming in quite a bit. At the pixel pitch of the 90d, zooming in a bit into that data would show increased blur from handholding but at the image level, there should be no difference than a lower resolution crop body.

Hopefully the next body will be amazing.

I heard that the JPEG engine on the 90D is very good, and that it deals with noise quit well. Is that not true?

I always have a crop and FF body with me. I would much rather use a crop sensor than us a TC - thus giving up a stop plus of light, and possible image quality - much more so the former though.

They are just tools... use what is right for the conditions. Sometimes reach out weighs pixel peeping.