Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
Thread started 23 Mar 2015 (Monday) 09:34
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

24-70 f4 II coming soon?

 
JJD.Photography
Goldmember
1,484 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 113
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Puerto Rico
     
Mar 23, 2015 09:34 |  #1

I noticed the rebate for the cheaper f4 is $200 and the 2.8 II is $150. Any chance this is Canon's way to unload the f4 for a f4 version 2 in the near future?


His And Her Photographs (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GeoKras1989
Goldmember
Avatar
4,038 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 262
Joined Jun 2014
     
Mar 23, 2015 09:38 |  #2
bannedPermanent ban

My guess is the f/4 is lowered because it is WAY over priced. A few bucks off the f/2.8 II can't hurt sales either. I think most folks would want an EF 24-70 f/2.8 IS, not another f/4.


WARNING: I often dispense advice in fields I know little about!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FarmerTed1971
fondling the 5D4
Avatar
7,352 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 5909
Joined Sep 2013
Location: Portland, OR
     
Mar 23, 2015 09:38 |  #3

Doubt it. The lens is not that old.... There are many more that need an updating first.


Getting better at this - Fuji X-t5 & X-t3 - 16 1.4 - 35/50/90 f2 - 50-140 - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,407 posts
Gallery: 49 photos
Likes: 3429
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Mar 23, 2015 10:06 |  #4

i don't see them investing in another 24-70f4 when the first was such a flop....they're trying to sell what they've already produced


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
se7enxn9ne
Member
Avatar
223 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 296
Joined Sep 2012
Post edited over 8 years ago by se7enxn9ne.
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:15 |  #5

I have the 24-70 f4. I must say for all the bad reviews I've heard, I am quite impressed and happy with this one on my 6D. It might be that I have an excellent copy. It is absolutely sharp, especially at f6.3-8. I also have the 2.8 II that I haven't got to use much yet because I bought them both nearly at the same time. Don't ask me how I ended up with both lol. Anyways, its a great lens if you're on a budget for a 24-70 lens and want to upgrade your 24-105. I have heard a lot of people complaining about the image at 50mm, but for me its very sharp. I can provide you with some samples if you'd like. I had it for sale, but I took it down because I figured it would be an excellent lens if I didn't want to carry a heavy version of it. Macro is really sweet and I think you can get this lens for $799 now with the rebate.

IMAGE: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7592/16247106693_3616b4a20b_b.jpg

IG: 8ightyse7en
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jarvis ­ Creative ­ Studios
Goldmember
Avatar
2,508 posts
Gallery: 28 photos
Likes: 1107
Joined Aug 2013
Location: Johnson City, Tennessee
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:22 |  #6

se7enxn9ne wrote in post #17490518 (external link)
I have the 24-70 f4. I must say for all the bad reviews I've heard, I am quite impressed and happy with this one on my 6D. It might be that I have an excellent copy. It is absolutely sharp, especially at f6.3-8. I also have the 2.8 II that I haven't got to use much yet because I bought them both nearly at the same time. Don't ask me how I ended up with both lol. Anyways, its a great lens if you're on a budget for a 24-70 lens and want to upgrade your 24-105. I have heard a lot of people complaining about the image at 50mm, but for me its very sharp. I can provide you with some samples if you'd like. I had it for sale, but I took it down because I figured it would be an excellent lens if I didn't want to carry a heavy version of it. Macro is really sweet and I think you can get this lens for $799 now with the rebate.
QUOTED IMAGE

I have no doubt that it's a great lens, but can I ask you why you think people would purchase it over the excellent Tamron 24-70 2.8 (which has IS btw) for close to the same price? (or at least they were before the rebate. I still don't think they're far enough apart to merit the purchase of the Canon.)


WEBSITE (external link)
flickr (external link)
Sony ZV-1 || Sony a7RIV || Sony a9 || Sony a1 || Sony FE 20mm f1.8 G || Sony FE 24-70 f2.8 GM || Sony FE 50mm f1.2 GM || Sony FE 90mm f2.8 Macro G OSS || Sony FE 135mm f1.8 GM || Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS || Godox speedlights and strobes

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
se7enxn9ne
Member
Avatar
223 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 296
Joined Sep 2012
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:34 as a reply to  @ Jarvis Creative Studios's post |  #7

I think it might be a branding / name issue. Tamron is an excellent company and make great lenses. The reason I purchased the canon 24-70 f4 over the tamron is because I shoot mainly still subjects, like stationary cars and people so i didn't really care for the speed.. Plus the macro feature seemed cool. I did a lot of review on this before making the purchase. I was thinking in my head, I have the 70-200 ii is for any motion/fast shots.. I ended up with the 2.8 ii in my bag because I could not pass it up due to a excellent price.

I also skimmed through this article quickly and saw that these guys had some good luck on the lens as well...

http://www.lensrentals​.com …70-f4-is-resolution-tests (external link)


IG: 8ightyse7en
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
magicmikey
Goldmember
Avatar
1,027 posts
Likes: 37
Joined Feb 2005
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:37 |  #8

Jarvis Creative Studios wrote in post #17490525 (external link)
I have no doubt that it's a great lens, but can I ask you why you think people would purchase it over the excellent Tamron 24-70 2.8 (which has IS btw) for close to the same pricie? (or at least they were before the rebate. I still don't think they're far enough apart to merit the purchase of the Canon.)

I can tell you why I bought the Canon 24-70 f/4L IS over the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8. I tried 2 copies of the Tamron and neither were acceptable. The first front focused so badly I couldn't micro focus adjust it. The replacement I got was super sharp and focused terrifically in good light but didn't focus nearly as well as it should have in low light and it did a terrible job tracking a subject in low light. The Canon 24-70 f/4 focuses far more consistently in low light and tracks far better despite being a stop slower. Maybe, a third copy of the Tamron might have done better but I saw enough complaints online and in reviews to decide it wasn't worth it to keep trying to find a "good" copy.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,407 posts
Gallery: 49 photos
Likes: 3429
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:40 |  #9

the reason the lens was a flop has nothing to do with the quality of the lens...it was the ridiculous price canon thought people would pay for it....$1,499 at introduction...now it's down to a more realistic number of $799 with a rebate...


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
se7enxn9ne
Member
Avatar
223 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 296
Joined Sep 2012
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:45 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #10

Good point. Forgot about that.


IG: 8ightyse7en
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Charlie
Guess What! I'm Pregnant!
16,672 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 6634
Joined Sep 2007
     
Mar 24, 2015 19:47 |  #11

DreDaze wrote in post #17490548 (external link)
the reason the lens was a flop has nothing to do with the quality of the lens...it was the ridiculous price canon thought people would pay for it....$1,499 at introduction...now it's down to a more realistic number of $799 with a rebate...

precisely, pair that with a significant loss in focal range compared to the 24-105, there's not many redeeming features in that lens. I mean if it kept the same focal range as the 24-105 with super optics, I think more folks would be welcoming of that idea, than the macro feature.


Sony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
Panasonic GH6 - Laowa 7.5/2 - PL 15/1.7 - P 42.5/1.8 - OM 75/1.8 - PL 10-25/1.7 - P 12-32 - P 14-140

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jrscls
Goldmember
3,090 posts
Gallery: 158 photos
Likes: 1716
Joined Mar 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
     
Mar 24, 2015 20:16 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #12

I have owned the 24-105, 24-70 II and the 24-70 f4 IS. I love the f4 IS version on my 6D. It is lightweight, excellent IQ, macro is nice for events, and I consider it a bargain at today's prices.


Sony A1, Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 FE, Sony 35mm f/1.4 GM, 24-70mm f2.8 GM II, 70-200mm F/2.8 GM OSS II, 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS, 1.4X TC, Flashpoint flashes

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dodgyexposure
Goldmember
2,874 posts
Gallery: 14 photos
Likes: 234
Joined Jul 2012
Location: Brisbane, Australia
     
Mar 25, 2015 00:23 |  #13

When I bought my 6D, I would have bought the f4 IS if it was priced at the level it is now. Instead, I bought the Tamron. Now, I have the 2.8 II.


Cheers, Damien

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Charlie
Guess What! I'm Pregnant!
16,672 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 6634
Joined Sep 2007
     
Mar 25, 2015 01:27 |  #14

jrscls wrote in post #17490602 (external link)
I have owned the 24-105, 24-70 II and the 24-70 f4 IS. I love the f4 IS version on my 6D. It is lightweight, excellent IQ, macro is nice for events, and I consider it a bargain at today's prices.

I dont deny the utility of the lens, having a macro and standard zoom all wrapped up into one is super convenient. I own a 24-70f4 zeiss, and I do change lenses often due to the focal length issue, I find that 70 is quite short, and I also have a macro/portrait lens that I love, so I understand the utility of a super versatile lens, however I'de choose the extended range every time over the macro, and I suspect most people would as well. The 24-105 does .23 macro, so it's not bad, that and the extended range, it's a winning combo, really hard to ignore.

if both had equal optics, it would be a really easy decision on which to pick.


Sony A7siii/A7iv/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
Panasonic GH6 - Laowa 7.5/2 - PL 15/1.7 - P 42.5/1.8 - OM 75/1.8 - PL 10-25/1.7 - P 12-32 - P 14-140

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rantercsr
Goldmember
Avatar
3,791 posts
Gallery: 67 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 9531
Joined Mar 2014
Post edited over 8 years ago by rantercsr. (2 edits in all)
     
Mar 25, 2015 06:01 |  #15

When I was in the market for a zoom it was between this and the 2.8 ii .. if it were 799 back then i would have gotten it and bought a 35l as well to cover the low light needs . It would have been just the combo that I wanted the convenience of a zoom with image stabilizer and a fast prime ..i went with the 2.8 ii I'm happy with it ..but sometimes wish for image stabilization and sometimes wish for something below 2.8 but wider than my 50 1.4

But yeah I would be surprised to see them do a second version.. if anything I think the 24-105 needs it more


My portraits IG (external link)
MY flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

4,248 views & 2 likes for this thread, 11 members have posted to it and it is followed by 5 members.
24-70 f4 II coming soon?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Niagara Wedding Photographer
1125 guests, 155 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.