Wasabi vs. Canon OEM battery = IDENTICAL.... I destroyed one of each to see inside!

Yup...

Will update photos. Now... the cells are different. the wasabi has light green cells that are lighter and the Canon are blue and a tad more weight but we are talking grams at this point.

THE COMPUTER CHIP INSIDE BOTH BATTERIES ARE IDENTICAL DOWN TO THE EXACT SAME PART NUMBER ON THE CHIP

The wasabi is actually built better. The metal jumpers are soldered and has tape over them while the Canon is only soldered no extra tape.

quick photo with phone (it's late, will update later)

Now.. this battery is left over from the early 5D2 days... it came with my 5D3 from previous owner. He claimed it was OEM... maybe it's not? hmm... the charge on it sucked so it paid a sacrifice and I dropped one of my wasabi's tonight so I said what the hell.

Great job! I'm not really surprised but it's good to have evidence.

But it doesn't say Canon and doesn't cost a kidney, so it's going to explode and destroy your camera and your house, and you will die a horrible firey death.

With that out of the way, thanks for doing this, it is nice to see how much Canon can rip people off sometimes.

Sirrith wrote in post #17493569
But it doesn't say Canon and doesn't cost a kidney, so it's going to explode and destroy your camera and your house, and you will die a horrible firey death.

You forget to mention the highly potential to nuke the entire town too

+100

Why had you to break two, just to prove one that is already known, by virtue of effect?

Now can you put 'em back together?

Are the battery cells absolutely identical? (same make/part number) - I see they are a different colour and I note the Canon ones are heavier.
They could have a different chemical content etc.
The chipset could also have different programming/code etc. contained with it

Not wishing to put a dampener on everyone's assumptions though...

NinetyEight wrote in post #17493767
Are the battery cells absolutely identical? (same make/part number) - I see they are a different colour and I note the Canon ones are heavier.
They could have a different chemical content etc.
The chipset could also have different programming/code etc. contained with it

Not wishing to put a dampener on everyone's assumptions though...

Correct.. batteries look different..only electronics look the same..
So unless you can show the actual code ON the batteries, you cant say they are identical.. Just the same electronics don't mean they are the same cells.

An easy way is to measure their weight, and length, if there is no writing ON the batteries themselves. But to me they look different.

Isn't this roughly equivalent to finding an engine and radio inside a Maserati and a Yugo and declaring them to be dentical?

You've pointed out at least two areas where they differ: color and mass. You have no idea how the chip is programmed or what is inside the batteries. We all know the cost is hugely different. They both fit inside of, and adequately power, several Canon cameras. That makes them similar, at best. Your experiment describes their differences, then goes on to declare them identical.

Your evidence directly contradicts your conclusion. Congratulations. You've joined the ranks of Andrew Wakefield, Martin Fleischmann, and Stanley Pons.

samsen wrote in post #17493625
Why had you to break two, just to prove one that is already known, by virtue of effect?

The canon was down to one bar on the recharge performance and wouldn't last more than around 200 shots... it was worn out. So I threw it in a drawer and never used it anymore. Last night I dropped one of the wasabi batteries and it cracked the case.... worried to use it I decided to crack it open and then took out the canon and cracked it open. thats it.

i already orderded me another wasabi to replaced the one I dropped.

NinetyEight wrote in post #17493767
Are the battery cells absolutely identical? (same make/part number) - I see they are a different colour and I note the Canon ones are heavier.
They could have a different chemical content etc.
The chipset could also have different programming/code etc. contained with it

Not wishing to put a dampener on everyone's assumptions though...

You are correct. The way I see it is this... the chipset is identical minus programming which is what we don't know. More than likely someone who is copying these could just be flashing the same Canon roms over to the wasabi?... plausible.

The cells are different. It's obvious on that.

HOWEVER, my 2 years of dual wasabi and one OEM my personal experience shows that the wasabi and the canon are indistinguishable from each other. Time and time again I have no clue what battery is in my camera. I typically go 2-3 weeks on a single battery and get anywhere from 750-1200 shots depending on how much playback I'm doing and/or videoing.

Wasabi is a proven in my book. 2 years of real world testing for me proves that. Your results may vary.

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17493798
Isn't this roughly equivalent to finding an engine and radio inside a Maserati and a Yugo and declaring them to be dentical?

You've pointed out at least two areas where they differ: color and mass. You have no idea how the chip is programmed or what is inside the batteries. We all know the cost is hugely different. They both fit inside of, and adequately power, several Canon cameras. That makes them similar, at best. Your experiment describes their differences, then goes on to declare them identical.

Your evidence directly contradicts your conclusion. Congratulations. You've joined the ranks of Andrew Wakefield, Martin Fleischmann, and Stanley Pons.

Well the title is misleading but it gets your attention. The chips are identical and the wasabi has a bit more build to it. beyond that they perform identical as I've said over 2 years of use I've can never guess correctly which battery is in the camera when it's time to replace the battery. I typically change the battery out when it's in the 15-20% range. I average 750-1200 shots each battery depending on video use and/or playback. I've gone 1400+ when I'm shooting sports and again.... I have no clue what battery is what due to the performance being equal.

Sometimes I feel the wasabi are a bit stronger but I also realize that I could never truly say that since there are too many variables.

Talley wrote in post #17493838
Well the title is misleading but it gets your attention. The chips are identical and the wasabi has a bit more build to it. beyond that they perform identical as I've said over 2 years of use I've can never guess correctly which battery is in the camera when it's time to replace the battery. I typically change the battery out when it's in the 15-20% range. I average 750-1200 shots each battery depending on video use and/or playback. I've gone 1400+ when I'm shooting sports and again.... I have no clue what battery is what due to the performance being equal.

Sometimes I feel the wasabi are a bit stronger but I also realize that I could never truly say that since there are too many variables.

True! It got me to read the thread. And I agree with you that the Wasabi's seem to last longer, but it really is hard to tell. If I chimp a lot, I can cut myself to 400 shots/charge. On a related note, I bought a 3rd party battery (same: LP-E6) when I bought my 60D. The original Canon battery is down to 1 red square, the MaxTech still shows 3 green squares of goodness. I use them in a grip and rotate positions. I expected them to die at about the same time.

The chips are the same because the 3rd party companies tend to take one Canon chip, copy it verbatim (including the serial number) and then make bunch of them. I'd be curious to know if you have tried to register the 3rd party batteries in your camera and if they have the same serial number.

I'd also suspect this is why you see 3 green bars of recharge performance - the performance is a communication between the camera and the battery that may not work properly with a 3rd party battery. It is also possible (likely, even) that Canon uses this as a way to artificially drive sales by showing a low performance when the battery is really fine.

Keyan wrote in post #17494331
The chips are the same because the 3rd party companies tend to take one Canon chip, copy it verbatim (including the serial number) and then make bunch of them. I'd be curious to know if you have tried to register the 3rd party batteries in your camera and if they have the same serial number.

I'd also suspect this is why you see 3 green bars of recharge performance - the performance is a communication between the camera and the battery that may not work properly with a 3rd party battery. It is also possible (likely, even) that Canon uses this as a way to artificially drive sales by showing a low performance when the battery is really fine.

These are not clones... they are wasabi.

yes, all that I have used have had individual serial numbers and they are all registered to the camera individually AND I have had one go down to two bars on recharge. Everything works great even with a battery grip using one wasabi and one canon.

I'm telling you I have three batteries, two wasabi and one original and I cannot tell them apart based on performance. Period.