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Mar 31, 2019 04:50 |  #3616

Gregsiem wrote in post #18837704 (external link)
... So for those who still have the original firmware, you need the dock to get the standard OS working properly, or for those who did upgrade, you need the dock in order to get back to factory default.

Ironic indeed.
Catch 22.

I will certainly try the next Dynamic OS, but if I recall correctly, the previous Dynamic could have been improved (on my Canons) as it was a tiny bit jumpy. The newest Standard is better than the previous Dynamic IMO. Some irony yes, but you can still potentially come out better.


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Mar 31, 2019 05:48 |  #3617

just done the update on my lens , and as previously stated it looks like it could be a canon issue . my firmware update is working fine with NONE of the problems that the canon users are reporting got it on dynamic o.s on C1 and C2 with no jumping about issues at all , will take it out later for a thorough test . but I cant envision any problems .

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my gut feeling tells me that canon may have installed some jiggery pokery in the bodies firmware to do this and drive you back to canon lenses , i.e the way they disabled shutter count checking on recent bodies ?????


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Mar 31, 2019 06:12 |  #3618

the black fox wrote in post #18837844 (external link)
my gut feeling tells me that canon may have installed some jiggery pokery in the bodies firmware to do this and drive you back to canon lenses , i.e the way they disabled shutter count checking on recent bodies ?????

I don’t believe that would be the case. There have been no Canon firmware updates (to the 7D II) recently to cause this. This one is firmly in Sigma’s court).


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Mar 31, 2019 12:38 |  #3620

couple of quick b.i.f test shots after lens update . TBH it seems quicker and more accurate but I do really need a full day out in better weather


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Mar 31, 2019 20:37 |  #3621

Can you give more explanation of the firmware issue? I've had my C version for quite awhile now. When I'm on a tripod and have OS turned on I see shake in view finder. I have Dynamic enabled since day 1 using the dock. What is the firmware version number? Should I not see shake with OS turned on? I thought you weren't supposed to use while on tripod? Thanks!




  
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Mar 31, 2019 23:07 |  #3622

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couple of quick b.i.f test shots after lens update . TBH it seems quicker and more accurate but I do really need a full day out in better weather
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Apr 01, 2019 04:55 |  #3623

Gregsiem wrote in post #18837704 (external link)
The reason I bought the dock in the first place was to change it to Dynamic OS and do firmware updates. Now I need the dock to change it back to factory default standard settings.

So for those who still have the original firmware, you need the dock to get the standard OS working properly, or for those who did upgrade, you need the dock in order to get back to factory default.

I believe the lens has to be sent back to Sigma to roll back the software, it can't be done via the dock. "So I have been told by Sigma".

here's a couple from this weekend..


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Apr 01, 2019 05:18 |  #3624

lets try to simplify things , as there only seems to be a few people affected .. and pressurising sigma to make changes to help them might then affect the thousands of others that are happy with the upgrade .. its fairly obvious that there has not been a earth shattering uproar about there being something wrong as this has been posted on both here and a u.k based large forum .

so as far as I can make out it seems to affect some 7dii bodies and some 5div bodies ... any others

and can you also verify the age of the affected lenses i.e within the 3 year warranty or older in case that has something to do with it ..

perhaps the update is throwing up a service issue with some older lenses ??


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Apr 01, 2019 05:38 |  #3625

another two test shots from yesterday after the update , weather conditions light grey overcast . I cant in all honesty see any problems at all with these or indeed the whole burst . the lens seems to lock on a bit quicker and the shots if anything for b.i.f seem to be a tad sharper all shots handheld btw I rarely use assistance for b.i.f .. also lets put this in context I,m no spring chicken myself at 73years its a effort lifting the lens at times .. or put it the other way its working for me


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Apr 01, 2019 06:02 |  #3626

the black fox wrote in post #18838384 (external link)
lets try to simplify things , as there only seems to be a few people affected .. and pressurising sigma to make changes to help them might then affect the thousands of others that are happy with the upgrade .. its fairly obvious that there has not been a earth shattering uproar about there being something wrong as this has been posted on both here and a u.k based large forum .

so as far as I can make out it seems to affect some 7dii bodies and some 5div bodies ... any others

and can you also verify the age of the affected lenses i.e within the 3 year warranty or older in case that has something to do with it ..

perhaps the update is throwing up a service issue with some older lenses ??


My lens is about 3 years old.


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Apr 01, 2019 06:11 |  #3627

I recieved an Email from Sigma UK this morning stating Sigma Japan are not aware of this problem and suggest sending the lens for inspection,my lens is not a year old yet, I'll probably send it in and get it looked at,I'll report when it comes back.


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Apr 01, 2019 08:57 |  #3628

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I recieved an Email from Sigma UK this morning stating Sigma Japan are not aware of this problem and suggest sending the lens for inspection,my lens is not a year old yet, I'll probably send it in and get it looked at,I'll report when it comes back.

How odd..

Below is the reply I got back from Sigma UK indicating the function of the recent firmware was correct and no error found.. I disagreed and they told me to send my lens in so that the firmware could be rolled back..

Morning Martin,


Sigma Japan have confirmed the information I supplied you with is correct. Please see the reply I received:


OS operation in Moderate mode may not look as strong as former version, but the actual effectiveness is still very good, and it will be reflected in the better image quality ultimately.
So I guess his lens is not defect. Please inform the customer to set Standard or Dynamic mode in this case.



Hopefully this helps.

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Apr 01, 2019 09:10 |  #3629

Martin.D wrote in post #18838462 (external link)
How odd..

Below is the reply I got back from Sigma UK indicating the function of the recent firmware was correct and no error found.. I disagreed and they told me to send my lens in so that the firmware could be rolled back..

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Yeh Martin I think we are being fobbed off,on reflection I can't be arsed to send it in,probably come back with "no problem found",it works well enough with standard mode OS,a future Firmware update will probably put this right.I tried again with Dynamic and put the camera in rapid fire mode ( don't use this at all really),the image does dance about a bit but it's fine with Standard.


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Apr 01, 2019 09:34 |  #3630

crofter wrote in post #18838467 (external link)
Yeh Martin I think we are being fobbed off,on reflection I can't be arsed to send it in,probably come back with "no problem found",it works well enough with standard mode OS,a future Firmware update will probably put this right.I tried again with Dynamic and put the camera in rapid fire mode ( don't use this at all really),the image does dance about a bit but it's fine with Standard.


Agreed - Prior to the update I was using Moderate View mode, as per the description:

"This mode offers excellent compensation of camera shake and achieves very smooth transition of the image in the viewfinder. The composition of the image remains natural even when the angle of viewing keeps changing."

but under this option it acts as if OS is switched of..

Standard is the way forward for the time being..


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