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Canon EF 100-400 II Tripod Collar Foot Warning

 
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Apr 01, 2015 08:49 |  #1

(I posted this in another forum, but thought I would share with my other community here, too, if this is not against the rules.)

I have hardly used this lens since getting it: the brutal ice and snow and wind and cold (and other responsibilities; though mainly the ice and snow and wind and cold) have been discouraging both me and the wildlife.

But this morning was warm, and some critters made a show, so I took an outing. I noticed that the lens was a little wobbly on the tripod, and it looked like the issue was between the collar foot and AS plate. I tightened the hex screw, but to no avail. What was weird was that it was not twisting, but rather wobbled along the front-back axis (i.e. tilted ever so slightly up and down). I could not seem to tighten it down. Worried that I might be stripping something, and not trusting the wobble. I decided to just handhold the lens instead.

Got back and thought I would take off the AS plate to examine it and maybe try to reattach it. Well, that was a lot easier than I thought. At least, the first part was. A few turns in and the whole thing popped off! It looks to me like there is a little sleeve or collar with threads on the inner side on the bottom of the Canon tripod collar foot, and this is what the 3/4" bolt screws in to. I have no idea what used to hold the sleeve/collar in place in the socket. Maybe it was glue or epoxy or wishful thinking of some kind. But, one way or another, in my case, it wore off. [EDIT: On close inspection, it looks like the little sleeve/colllar/thingam​ajig snapped off. The head is still in its socket in the lens foot, and you can see the jagged edges on the top of the part that is stuck to the 3/4" screw.]

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I am open to the possibility that this issue may have been exacerbated by an error on my part, but I doubt it. This lens has been mostly sitting in a dry box since I got it. On the few occasions I have taken it out, I *have* used the plate + foot as a handle ... but surely that does not constitute abuse?

I am looking on the bright side. This scenario could easily have occurred in other circumstances with much worse or sad circumstances (in the long run, more sad for my insurance company than myself, I suppose). As it happens, occurring as it did in this controlled environment, I learned something new and useful about this lens. Do not trust this tripod foot. I have just ordered the Kirk replacement. I might try seeing if this is covered by the Canon warranty, but honestly think this is a design flaw, and the only reason to pursue the warranty is to maintain the resale value by being able to include an intact OEM foot.

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Apr 01, 2015 09:40 |  #2

Just get a Kirk Enterprise or Really Right Stuff replacement for it




  
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Apr 01, 2015 18:37 |  #3

gqllc007 wrote in post #17500514 (external link)
Just get a Kirk Enterprise or Really Right Stuff replacement for it

OP states he has done just that: "I have just ordered the Kirk replacement."


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Apr 01, 2015 18:39 |  #4

Thanks for the warning. I'm planning on getting a replacement foot.
When using with my Gitzo monopod I often end up loosening the RRS lens plate so it's a nuisance, I think I'll get it sooner now rather than later.


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Apr 01, 2015 19:05 |  #5

Choderboy wrote in post #17501176 (external link)
OP states he has done just that: "I have just ordered the Kirk replacement."

OOPS...missed that!!




  
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Apr 01, 2015 19:38 |  #6

gqllc007 wrote in post #17501206 (external link)
OOPS...missed that!!

No harm done.
As an owner of this lens I read very carefully.

Thanks again to OP, really good post, explanation and photos.
My first thought when inspecting my new lens was why don't they put 2 threads in the foot?


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Apr 02, 2015 03:34 as a reply to  @ Choderboy's post |  #7

I never cared for the original foot and ordered the RRS replacement foot as soon as it came out. The larger size of the RRS foot fits my hand better when I'm shooting handheld and its solid when its on the tripod.



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Apr 02, 2015 06:38 |  #8

Timphoto wrote in post #17501620 (external link)
I never cared for the original foot and ordered the RRS replacement foot as soon as it came out. The larger size of the RRS foot fits my hand better when I'm shooting handheld and its solid when its on the tripod.

I'm curious. Do you use the foot to just carry the camera around, or do you hold it somehow while shooting?


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Apr 02, 2015 06:46 |  #9

Timphoto wrote in post #17501620 (external link)
I never cared for the original foot and ordered the RRS replacement foot as soon as it came out. The larger size of the RRS foot fits my hand better when I'm shooting handheld and its solid when its on the tripod.

Interesting contrast. I just bought the Kirk replacement foot, and so far I am finding that it is too long for my taste. It gets in my way when I use the zoom ring to change focal lengths. I am hoping to get used to it over time. I never had this issue with the old model 100-400L and it's tripod ring/foot.


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Apr 02, 2015 06:49 |  #10

Scott M wrote in post #17501715 (external link)
Interesting contrast. I just bought the Kirk replacement foot, and so far I am finding that it is too long for my taste. It gets in my way when I use the zoom ring to change focal lengths. I am hoping to get used to it over time. I never had this issue with the old model 100-400L and it's tripod ring/foot.

When I am not using the foot I rotate it up to the top of the lens and have no issues with it getting in the way




  
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Apr 02, 2015 10:27 |  #11

I have this lens and I find the supplied foot to be lacking in substance. Somebody obviously thought it was a good idea at the design stage but I'm not confident with it, shouldn't have to fork out more wonga for a replacement - it's not a cheap lens but for that very reason I suppose I'll have to get the Kirk foot.


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Apr 02, 2015 12:59 |  #12

I got one of the Kirk feet myself, and I can;t say I am warming up to it.

I got it as I have been all arca QR for a long time and anytime I can use a foot as opposed to a plate (adding bulk and weight) I do.

Problem with the Kirk foot is that now I can't just take it off for the 98% of the time I will use the lens without a tripod or support without breaking out the tools.

So yes, the Kirk foot is clearly a better solution for tripod use, BUT since this is only something i do on rare occasions with THIS lens, it's just in my way most of the time.


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Apr 02, 2015 23:47 |  #13

What Kirk model did you all purchase? Just wondering. First I've heard of this problem. Thanks for the 4-1-1.


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Apr 02, 2015 23:53 |  #14

robertnzana wrote in post #17502794 (external link)
What Kirk model did you all purchase? Just wondering. First I've heard of this problem. Thanks for the 4-1-1.

There is only one (Kirk), it's specific to the 100-400 II. RRS also make one.


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Apr 03, 2015 00:34 |  #15

Choderboy wrote in post #17502798 (external link)
There is only one (Kirk), it's specific to the 100-400 II. RRS also make one.

Thanks!


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