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Apr 08, 2015 09:08 |  #1

Do these qualify as macros? These were shot using a 5D3 + 100-400mm + 1.4x extender @ 560mm.

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Apr 08, 2015 09:18 |  #2

I doubt many of us care if they're technically macro (1:1 or better). A large percentage of images in the macro forum aren't.

Very nice shots. I love mantids, especially the big ones. :)


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Apr 08, 2015 10:27 |  #3

How dare you call macro any shot taken without a real macro lens :) Zoom lenses will often go to 1/4 life size, and they call that macro --- it seems you are safe! I believe that you are in the macro world if you can see fine details in small subjects. People have used many different methods to get up close, such as extension tubes, close-up filters, reversing lenses, etc -- all roads lead to Rome. I particularly like your second shot.




  
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Apr 08, 2015 12:14 |  #4

Thanks. Glad to find a forum to post these at.

...I particularly like your second shot.

Thanks. I actually rotated the image almost 180° for that 'pose'. He was really hanging upside down. :-)


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Apr 08, 2015 14:21 |  #5

Lovely composition and colour, and a great subject.

Lovely work.


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Apr 08, 2015 16:58 |  #6

Lovely looking Mantid


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Apr 09, 2015 00:00 |  #7

I would like to add, that although a zoom lens will let you get very close, a true macro lens can be a great deal of fun. You can literally get lost in time in just a small patch of forest taking pictures. Mind you, I am very much into macro so I might not be the most impartial person!




  
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Apr 09, 2015 00:13 |  #8

navydoc wrote in post #17509110 (external link)
Do these qualify as macros? These were shot using a 5D3 + 100-400mm + 1.4x extender @ 560mm.

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Nice shots, but an odd question. I suspect most normal and macro lenses of 100mm and longer are telephoto in design. But this is not relevant to the art of getting nice closeup pictures.


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Apr 09, 2015 00:54 |  #9

Wonderful series- esp like #1
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Apr 09, 2015 05:09 |  #10

Thanks for the comments everyone. The original question in my first post was to cover myself if for some reason I was posting in the wrong forum. I'm not a macro shooter so I'm not that familiar with the definition of what that method of photography encompasses. I didn't/don't know for example whether that term only applies to lenses within a certain range of focal lengths or perhaps the distance the lens is from the subject.

It just seemed to me that the words "telephoto" and "macro" are diametrically apposed to each other. I think of one as shooting things that are far away and the other as shooting things that are very close. I suppose that in the end it doesn't matter how you get there, as long as you get the results you want.

At any rate, this July I'll be getting the new Sony 90mm macro lens for my a7r and this will be my first true macro lens. I'm looking forward to discovering a whole other universe out there to photograph.


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Apr 09, 2015 06:31 |  #11

Archibald wrote in post #17510232 (external link)
I suspect most normal and macro lenses of 100mm and longer are telephoto in design.

Macro lenses are classified by their magnification rate. Most, if not all, macro lenses will magnify to 1/2 life size(1:2) and some will go to 1:1(life size) without the need for additional extension tubes. If you were to take a picture of a 1" circle, it would be 1/2" on the sensor(this used to be on the negative!) at 1:2. Macro lenses are generally between 50 and 200MM. The size selected depends on preference and pocket size:). Magnification is not related to lens size, 1:2 with a 50mm is the same as 1:2 with a 200mm lens, but perspective and distance between subject and lens(sensor) will be different. I prefer 200mm lenses but my pocket could only swing for a 90mm at the time:( However, with cropped sensors, a 100 becomes a 160mm lens! Macro photography requires a different way of thinking, you will find yourself watching where you step! It also takes quite a bit of patience, at least it does for me. I don't like flash and natural light and breeze become an issue, exposures tend to be fairly long if you want to get a decent DOF.

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Apr 09, 2015 09:29 |  #12

CheleA wrote in post #17510404 (external link)
However, with cropped sensors, a 100 becomes a 160mm lens!

A 100mm lens on a crop sensor is 100mm!


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Apr 09, 2015 10:04 |  #13

Archibald wrote in post #17510571 (external link)
A 100mm lens on a crop sensor is 100mm!

In relation to a full frame/35mm film, does it not become the equivalent of a 160? At least that is how I meant it:)




  
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Apr 09, 2015 10:28 |  #14

CheleA wrote in post #17510617 (external link)
In relation to a full frame/35mm film, does it not become the equivalent of a 160? At least that is how I meant it:)

The field of view is equivalent, but the focal length stays 100mm.


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Apr 09, 2015 10:38 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #15

Now you got me confused, I was/am under the impression that one "advantage" of cropped sensor cameras was their added reach (1.6x) in relation to a full frame sensor, which is equivalent to 35mm film. I'm new to digital photography but am very familiar with photography in general. At least that is an argument I have seen people use to own a FF and cropped bodies.




  
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