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Apr 29, 2015 06:51 |  #1

So i had to sell my poor Mac Mini, I'm gutted! it wasn't the best in the world (base line 2014 model) it did the job.

I'm now thinking of going back to building my own PC. I'm not a fan of Intel so am opting to go the AMD route. I also have a late 11 macbook pro running the 2.4ghz i7 and 16gb ram.

What do you think of the below (added to a 125gb SSD and 2x 2TB 7200 WD drives? I would be planning on adding more ram in the future too just 'cause you can never have too much ram :)

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Apr 29, 2015 15:24 |  #2

I would get a 250 GB SSD. They've really come down in price and you'll never regret having extra space on your C drive.




  
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Apr 29, 2015 16:25 |  #3

I think it looks good. I'm personally a fan of Intel though :)


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Apr 30, 2015 02:00 as a reply to  @ bikfoto's post |  #4

I was an intel fan but i fell in love with my AMD Phenom II x4

I was thinking of going with 125gb SSD to start with and then upgrade to a 256gb when i can afford it.
I presume it would be best to store the photos on my SSD as well as lightroom and photoshop?


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Apr 30, 2015 09:40 |  #5

Factor in spam and malware software costs. :lol:




  
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Apr 30, 2015 09:41 |  #6

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Factor in spam and malware software costs. :lol:

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Apr 30, 2015 10:45 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #7

i use kickass for that ;-)a


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Apr 30, 2015 11:06 |  #8

I'm CPU neutral, but the true is Intel screw the market up so bad a few years ago and AMD just can't catch up. Sometime regardless whether I like AMD or not, I still have to pick Intel. The reason I mention that is because AMD FX while doing ok in multitasking like video encoding/transcoding, but when the CPU demand is only single core AMD FX is just not going to do well. As far as 128 vs 256GB of SSD that will depend on you. Most people don't have software to fill up the 128GB of space as long as you keep all your data in the harddrive. With one exception, games, many newer games have a lot of graphics, and not only require good GPU card but also eat up tons of drive space as well. While some games can put part of the games spread out to non-OS partition, many can't. So in those cases, then it's safer to buy 256GB SSD. One other thing about bigger size SSD is that comparing the same brand and model, larger size SSD tend to be faster also and sometime significantly faster. Which not only beneficial in term of speed but usefulness as well. I mean even if 256/516GB can't save all your picture although you don't want to do that, but it's work space to work on a batch or two of pictures. Think of it as working working on Lightroom when the set of pictures you work on are on SSD instead of HDD, then move them to HDD after you are done editing them.




  
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Apr 30, 2015 12:05 as a reply to  @ someone0's post |  #9

So far as gaming goes i dont think i'll be gaming on it at all, i have a PS4 and that is seldom turned on :) I think the 265 should be ample for my photos, and at this stage they would fit on 125 with my OS and LR/PS.
I'm thinking the idea of putting legacy pics on HDD could work.

My idea was to get a decent enough machine to use and run LR / PS as fast if not faster than my MBP and i dont think this would be an issue with the build :) i hope!
maybe in 24 months i would look at upgrading the SSD and GPU.

I think the main reason i have opted for the AMD and ATI combo is the price.

Oh and i'll also be working on a lot of Kali Linux for my work course (CEH v8)


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Apr 30, 2015 15:01 |  #10

urbanfreestyle wrote in post #17538514 (external link)
So far as gaming goes i dont think i'll be gaming on it at all, i have a PS4 and that is seldom turned on :) I think the 265 should be ample for my photos, and at this stage they would fit on 125 with my OS and LR/PS.
I'm thinking the idea of putting legacy pics on HDD could work.

My idea was to get a decent enough machine to use and run LR / PS as fast if not faster than my MBP and i dont think this would be an issue with the build :) i hope!
maybe in 24 months i would look at upgrading the SSD and GPU.

I think the main reason i have opted for the AMD and ATI combo is the price.

Oh and i'll also be working on a lot of Kali Linux for my work course (CEH v8)

I'm using 190 GB out of 250 on my C drive where I install Windows and applications. I don't game. You always want to have some slack space on your C drive, especially with an SSD. I also keep my LR catalog on my C drive which brings the previews with it. That's 16 GB right there.

I just checked Amazon and for a Samsung 850 EVO, its only £30 more for the 250 GB version. Well worth it to avoid looking over your shoulder at your free space all the time.




  
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May 08, 2015 23:18 |  #11

That PSU is overkill imo, a 500w PSU would more than do it (from everything I've read PSU's run best when they're near capacity, so really a 400gb PSU might even be better).

The 16GB of RAM seems nice to have, but that too is overkill unless you're doing a lot of video rendering or multitasking like crazy... on average I only use about 4GB of RAM according to my system monitor... of course it can't hurt to have that RAM in there for future proofing, but if you're trying to keep your budget low I'd go with 8GB for now.

I think the 8370 is a bit pointless too honestly as long as you're not afraid of overclocking. The 8350 is cheaper and gives just as much headroom when overclocked from all that I've seen (I've been eyeing AMD's processors myself ;) )

I also noticed you didn't add in an aftermarket CPU cooler, and that's something I would definitely add. The Cooler Master 212 EVO is a popular choice.

With the money saved in the areas mentioned above you could get a nicer graphics card (if you play games, otherwise the 270x is actually overkill already for most things).

Other than that, it looks good ;)

For what it's worth, I'm a recent Windows converter myself coming from an i7 Mac Mini (late 2012 model)... my $400 AMD based PC practically runs circles around it.


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May 08, 2015 23:27 |  #12

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The 16GB of RAM seems nice to have, but that too is overkill unless you're doing a lot of video rendering or multitasking like crazy... on average I only use about 4GB of RAM according to my system monitor... of course it can't hurt to have that RAM in there for future proofing, but if you're trying to keep your budget low I'd go with 8GB for now.

System monitor can be deceiving. Windows will take advantage of more memory and improve performance (to a point) even if the system reports free RAM. I just upgraded to Lightroom 6 and while working with the new facial recognition, LR alone was using over 5 GB of RAM according to task manager.




  
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May 08, 2015 23:31 |  #13

I'm sorry for your loss.


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May 09, 2015 17:58 |  #14

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17549173 (external link)
That PSU is overkill imo, a 500w PSU would more than do it (from everything I've read PSU's run best when they're near capacity, so really a 400gb PSU might even be better).

The 16GB of RAM seems nice to have, but that too is overkill unless you're doing a lot of video rendering or multitasking like crazy... on average I only use about 4GB of RAM according to my system monitor... of course it can't hurt to have that RAM in there for future proofing, but if you're trying to keep your budget low I'd go with 8GB for now.

I think the 8370 is a bit pointless too honestly as long as you're not afraid of overclocking. The 8350 is cheaper and gives just as much headroom when overclocked from all that I've seen (I've been eyeing AMD's processors myself ;) )

I also noticed you didn't add in an aftermarket CPU cooler, and that's something I would definitely add. The Cooler Master 212 EVO is a popular choice.

With the money saved in the areas mentioned above you could get a nicer graphics card (if you play games, otherwise the 270x is actually overkill already for most things).

Other than that, it looks good ;)

For what it's worth, I'm a recent Windows converter myself coming from an i7 Mac Mini (late 2012 model)... my $400 AMD based PC practically runs circles around it.

First of all, I'm an IT guy and have always been a Windows (and a tiny bit Linux) guy until October 2006 when I got my first Mac Mini. In 2011 I got my second Mac Mini. That one died last year (while my first Mac Mini is still being used by my parents), so it's back to Windows again (which also makes me game a lot again). I have always been pretty geeky about benchmarks etc, I had to know all the details about upcoming processors, videocards and other hardware. That mostly changed as soon as I bought my first Mac Mini.

But to be honest, you're making an unfair comparison. A Mac Mini uses laptop hardware. Laptop hardware is more expensive than desktop PC hardware. It's also slower than desktop PC hardware. In return you get a much more silent system and lower power consumption. Both my server PC and game PC use carefully selected hardware to minimize noise (e.g. my server PC has a passively cooled CPU). Yet, I still cannot reach the low noise level of my Mac Mini's.


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May 09, 2015 18:42 |  #15

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First of all, I'm an IT guy and have always been a Windows (and a tiny bit Linux) guy until October 2006 when I got my first Mac Mini. In 2011 I got my second Mac Mini. That one died last year (while my first Mac Mini is still being used by my parents), so it's back to Windows again (which also makes me game a lot again). I have always been pretty geeky about benchmarks etc, I had to know all the details about upcoming processors, videocards and other hardware. That mostly changed as soon as I bought my first Mac Mini.

But to be honest, you're making an unfair comparison. A Mac Mini uses laptop hardware. Laptop hardware is more expensive than desktop PC hardware. It's also slower than desktop PC hardware. In return you get a much more silent system and lower power consumption. Both my server PC and game PC use carefully selected hardware to minimize noise (e.g. my server PC has a passively cooled CPU). Yet, I still cannot reach the low noise level of my Mac Mini's.

I realize that, and that's kinda my point. Macs gimp their hardware in preference to form and style. I'm a function over form kinda guy.

Even iMacs use a large portion of laptop hardware. If you want full desktop you have to pony up the dough for a Mac Pro.


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