Adobe CC Download Hard Drive Location Question

When I bought my new computer, it was suggested that any programs I install, I should install it to the non SSD.
So, last night when I downloaded the free trial Adobe CC application file, it showed it as being downloaded by default to the
1TB DATA(E hard drive.
I thought that was good because that's where I wanted it to go.
But, it turns out that the actual Lightroom CC and Photoshop CC programs have installed on the WIN7 PROX64(C SSD.
I don't remember seeing an option available during the install process of these programs to pick which drive I wanted them installed on.

Is the SSD the right location for these programs?
If it is, then ok, if it isn't, what can I do about these 2 programs?
Should/can I move them to the other hard drive?

I'm probably mixed up about this but, my understanding was that yes, part of these programs would be automatically installed to the SSD due to registry needs but, the entire program wouldn't be installed to the SSD if I didn't want it to.

I have no idea why the smiley face emoticon appears where I put in the colon punctuation mark??

I might be wrong, but it looks like your mixing download location and install location...

Like you I have a smaller ssd where my OS is installed (I have a motherboard equipped with a slot for m-sata disks which basically are ssd's with a different kind of connector) and another "classic" type of disk where I have my apps installed.

Don't know about the trial versions, but in my CC application I can choose the install location of Lightroom and Photoshop by clicking the little "cogwheel" in the upper right corner, selecting "preferences" and then under "Creative Cloud" selecting preferred location.

Hello D-Jordi
Thanks for your reply.
The information you provided is appreciated and sounds like the answer I was looking for.
I'll try what you've suggested.

Sorry to take so long to reply to your post but, after a couple of weeks of no replies to my original post, I stopped checking for replies.
I just happen to stumble across your reply tonight in my notifications when I logged on.

Canongear

Unless you have a tiny SSD keep the software installed on it. A 120GB SSD should easily be big enough for Windows, Photoshop suite, cache, and catalog. 256GB would be more comfortable.

I use two SSDs, because I want my OS/programs disk small enough that I can create a small image with Macrium Reflect free. This means if anything goes wrong I can roll back to an older OS version. A partitioned SSD would work too.

I have a 232 GB SSD which currently has 136 GB of free space.
I bought the computer back in mid February of this year and there was almost 160GB of free space on the SSD at the time.
So basically in only 6 Months, programs or whatever, have used up 96GB's of drive space to this point
At that rate, in another 7 Months or so, the drive space will be all used up.
This is why I was considering putting the Adobe CC program on my 1TB DATA drive.

I don't understand why the free drive space continues to shrink even though I haven't installed any new programs since I installed Adobe CC back in June.

Windows 7, Adobe CC and iTunes from what I can see, are the 3 biggest programs installed on the SSD.
I have just a couple more smaller programs on it.

I mentioned this to one of the people where I bought the computer and he told me that updates for Windows and iTunes are so big.

I am not a computer expert by any stretch of the imagination but, I find that to be a odd explanation.
I say that because, I only had a 80GB HHD on my old computer with XP as the OS and I had iTunes as well as PS CS5 installed on it along with more programs than I currently have on the SSD.
I also had a ton of pictures and some videos on the HHD and I never used up the full 80GB's of space in the number of years that I had that computer.

canongear wrote in post #17684386
I have a 232 GB SSD which currently has 136 GB of free space.
I bought the computer back in mid February of this year and there was almost 160GB of free space on the SSD at the time.
So basically in only 6 Months, programs or whatever, have used up 96GB's of drive space to this point
At that rate, in another 7 Months or so, the drive space will be all used up.
This is why I was considering putting the Adobe CC program on my 1TB DATA drive.

I don't understand why the free drive space continues to shrink even though I haven't installed any new programs since I installed Adobe CC back in June.

Windows 7, Adobe CC and iTunes from what I can see, are the 3 biggest programs installed on the SSD.
I have just a couple more smaller programs on it.

I mentioned this to one of the people where I bought the computer and he told me that updates for Windows and iTunes are so big.

I am not a computer expert by any stretch of the imagination but, I find that to be a odd explanation.
I say that because, I only had a 80GB HHD on my old computer with XP as the OS and I had iTunes as well as PS CS5 installed on it along with more programs than I currently have on the SSD.
I also had a ton of pictures and some videos on the HHD and I never used up the full 80GB's of space in the number of years that I had that computer.

1. Empty all your temp folders. There are bunch of them, eg C:\Users\username\AppD​ata\Local\Temp and C:\Users\username\AppD​ata\LocalLow\Temp
2. Run "diskclean", it comes with windows. Run it, select your drive, then choose "clean up system files".
3. Empty your web browser caches.
4. Look at your media libraries.
5. You can delete old windows update install files. Google to work it out.
6. Empty all image program caches.
7. ccleaner I think is a good cleanup program.
8. Google for "reduce windows disk space usage" or similar.
9. Disable hibernate file. Google for it.

My W10 install on a 120GB SSD is 43GB including OS, software, and a few bits and pieces, but no image libraries. I can get it down to 30GB if I care, but I don't.

canongear wrote in post #17684386
I have a 232 GB SSD which currently has 136 GB of free space.
I bought the computer back in mid February of this year and there was almost 160GB of free space on the SSD at the time.
So basically in only 6 Months, programs or whatever, have used up 96GB's of drive space to this point
At that rate, in another 7 Months or so, the drive space will be all used up.
This is why I was considering putting the Adobe CC program on my 1TB DATA drive.

I don't understand why the free drive space continues to shrink even though I haven't installed any new programs since I installed Adobe CC back in June.

Windows 7, Adobe CC and iTunes from what I can see, are the 3 biggest programs installed on the SSD.
I have just a couple more smaller programs on it.

I mentioned this to one of the people where I bought the computer and he told me that updates for Windows and iTunes are so big.

I am not a computer expert by any stretch of the imagination but, I find that to be a odd explanation.
I say that because, I only had a 80GB HHD on my old computer with XP as the OS and I had iTunes as well as PS CS5 installed on it along with more programs than I currently have on the SSD.
I also had a ton of pictures and some videos on the HHD and I never used up the full 80GB's of space in the number of years that I had that computer.

I had similar problem with a 320GB hard drive - used up 300GB of it and 190GB of that was "unknown"
I spent AGES trying to track down where all the space was being used up.
There is software like "SpaceSniffer" / "WinDirStat" / "TreeSize" that can tell what is using up space.
Problem was they all reported this "Unkown" space but couldn't identify exactly what it was.

The most common suggestion (in addition to those already mentioned), was "System Restore" points.
Trouble was that it was applicable to me! Grrrr!!

I EVENTUALLY (months) track the problem down to a program called "Rollback Rx" - it is a "System Restore" type program on steroids. It loads before Windows and is hidden from Windows. Turns out I had so many "Rollback" restore points that they were taking up most of that missing 190GB!!!! I made so changes to reduce the number of rollback points I keep.
Happy days ... after tearing out my hair for months.

So maybe have a look at those programs and restore points?

tim wrote in post #17684494
1. Empty all your temp folders. There are bunch of them, eg C:\Users\username\AppD​ata\Local\Temp and C:\Users\username\AppD​ata\LocalLow\Temp
2. Run "diskclean", it comes with windows. Run it, select your drive, then choose "clean up system files".
3. Empty your web browser caches.
4. Look at your media libraries.
5. You can delete old windows update install files. Google to work it out.
6. Empty all image program caches.
7. ccleaner I think is a good cleanup program.
8. Google for "reduce windows disk space usage" or similar.
9. Disable hibernate file. Google for it.

My W10 install on a 120GB SSD is 43GB including OS, software, and a few bits and pieces, but no image libraries. I can get it down to 30GB if I care, but I don't.

Hello Tim
I've done a few of your suggestions.
I ended up gaining a little over 1 GB back doing the disk cleanup.
I have a question for you if you don't mind regarding the disk cleanup function.

When I ran it, it picked certain things by default that could be cleaned up.
One of those things was Windows Update cleanup. That is where I got the 1 GB back.
It did not however, pick Temporary files which is using 10.5 GB, or Temporary Windows installation files which is using 6.5 GB of space.
In the description of each of those, it says they are safe to delete. Well, except for the Temporary Windows installation files, it's worded a bit differently.
It says as long as they have not been modified in over a week, they are safe to delete.
I have no idea if they have been modified or not.

I would like to gain back that 17GB's of space between those two files but, I'm a bit leery of cleaning up those files.
If they are safe to delete, any suggestions as to why the disk cleanup program didn't pick them to be cleaned?

AceCo55 wrote in post #17684660
I had similar problem with a 320GB hard drive - used up 300GB of it and 190GB of that was "unknown"
I spent AGES trying to track down where all the space was being used up.
There is software like "SpaceSniffer" / "WinDirStat" / "TreeSize" that can tell what is using up space.
Problem was they all reported this "Unkown" space but couldn't identify exactly what it was.

The most common suggestion (in addition to those already mentioned), was "System Restore" points.
Trouble was that it was applicable to me! Grrrr!!

I EVENTUALLY (months) track the problem down to a program called "Rollback Rx" - it is a "System Restore" type program on steroids. It loads before Windows and is hidden from Windows. Turns out I had so many "Rollback" restore points that they were taking up most of that missing 190GB!!!! I made so changes to reduce the number of rollback points I keep.
Happy days ... after tearing out my hair for months.

So maybe have a look at those programs and restore points?

Hello AceCo55
Thanks for your reply.
Just curious about something though.
Are you saying that might be the problem I'm having as well or, you were just relating your experience with this particular Rollback Rx software?
As far as I can tell, I don't have that software on my computer.

It will run faster from the SSD, leave it there. But, move the catalog elsewhere where you have more space, as well as the library where you keep import copies and place your exports. The Cache will run faster from an SSD, but it will also age the SSD since it is write intensive. I keep a separate smaller inexpensive SSD just for the LR and PS cache files.

Periodically, go into the folder where you catalog is, find the Back up folder and delete old uneeded catalog backups to save disk space. Smart Previews also take space, and there is no need to save them after you are done processing a batch of photos. You can set them to delete automatically after a fixed time period in the preferences section of LR.

If you have not changed the default location of your library folders, they also will be taking up disk space. By default they are located on C: . These are folder like My Documents, Music, Pictures, etc.... If you store your images in the default Pictures folder, that's probably eating a lot of space.

How to change the default location of these folders is a bit different for each version of windows. You'll need to google it. But, definitely make sure they are on your data drive.

Now, there is one folder, I forget which one off the top of my head, that is a hidden folder. It's one of those App% something filenames. You can't move it and it stays on the C: drive. I remember reading that over time, it gets ginormous. The information about that was in the same place I found how to move the library folders. So, you may be able to find it with a little googling.

Hope this helps. If any of it is not quite accurate (my memory has more holes than swiss cheese), anyone can feel free to correct me.

bsmotril wrote in post #17685675
It will run faster from the SSD, leave it there. But, move the catalog elsewhere where you have more space, as well as the library where you keep import copies and place your exports. The Cache will run faster from an SSD, but it will also age the SSD since it is write intensive. I keep a separate smaller inexpensive SSD just for the LR and PS cache files.

Periodically, go into the folder where you catalog is, find the Back up folder and delete old uneeded catalog backups to save disk space. Smart Previews also take space, and there is no need to save them after you are done processing a batch of photos. You can set them to delete automatically after a fixed time period in the preferences section of LR.

If I searched properly, it appears that the catalog and library folders are on my DATA drive. I don't know if that's something I did when installing Adobe CC or they were placed there by default.
Thanks for the tips.

MedicinSC wrote in post #17685689
If you have not changed the default location of your library folders, they also will be taking up disk space. By default they are located on C: . These are folder like My Documents, Music, Pictures, etc.... If you store your images in the default Pictures folder, that's probably eating a lot of space.

How to change the default location of these folders is a bit different for each version of windows. You'll need to google it. But, definitely make sure they are on your data drive.

Now, there is one folder, I forget which one off the top of my head, that is a hidden folder. It's one of those App% something filenames. You can't move it and it stays on the C: drive. I remember reading that over time, it gets ginormous. The information about that was in the same place I found how to move the library folders. So, you may be able to find it with a little googling.

Hope this helps. If any of it is not quite accurate (my memory has more holes than swiss cheese), anyone can feel free to correct me.

All the folders you mention above, show as being on the DATA drive as well.
I'm assuming they were put there by the guy who built the computer for me.
It was his suggestion that the SSD be used only for the OS and any other programs put on the SSD, be kept at a minimum. Everything else would go on the DATA drive.
So, based on the responses to my initial question, it sounds like things are set up the way they should be as far as what parts of Adobe CC should be on the SSD and what should be on the DATA drive.
I'll have to check out this App% you've mentioned.
Thanks for your tips as well.

canongear wrote in post #17685658
I would like to gain back that 17GB's of space between those two files but, I'm a bit leery of cleaning up those files.
If they are safe to delete, any suggestions as to why the disk cleanup program didn't pick them to be cleaned?

I believe they're both safe to delete. Take an image with Macrium Reflect Free before you do it, just in case. Disable hibernate before you do the image, that's super safe. Temporary files are always safe to delete, manually or automatically.

I keep regular images of my OS and programs, updated every few months. My image files are around 15GB with software installed. I create them from a macrium boot disk, I've recovered from them in the past.