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May 02, 2015 15:02 |  #1

I really like the Canon E3 Transmitter so in effort to control the two CL-360s and two 600RT from the same controller I bought two of YNE3-RX receivers.

Just as promised simply attach to the bottom of the CL-360 and link it up and boom done. Remote triggering from the Canon transmitter. Which is what I wanted. You can also use PC sync cords and do this same thing to any strobe. Now, you can't control the power this will still need to be done via the remote trigger for the strobe but this gives me the versatility that I wanted.

I'll end up picking up a couple 580exII for backups and then I could use these and have 4 fully controllable strobes if need be.

I know it's dumb but I'm happy with the capability.

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May 02, 2015 15:44 |  #2

Can the the ST-e3-rt or yn-e3-rt trigger Rovelight 600b in HSS? when a Yne3-rx is connected to Rovelight 600b.

Why sould it require PC sync cord?

If this works then i may just avoid yn622c or cells ii




  
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May 02, 2015 15:55 |  #3

KHAWACHEN wrote in post #17540823 (external link)
Can the the ST-e3-rt or yn-e3-rt trigger Rovelight 600b in HSS? when a Yne3-rx is connected to Rovelight 600b.

Why sould it require PC sync cord?

If this works then i may just avoid yn622c or cells ii

As far as I know the YNE3-RX will offer full manual/ettl controls for other canon flashes (580exII,430exII, 70ex,90ex, etc)

Now for me I since I have two 600RT I wanted this even though it was kinda more expensive than other routes. But I wanted fully integrated so thats what I paid.

As far as trigging from the Canon transmitter yes you can still do the same w/ ETTL/HSS but you would have to attach the YNE3-RX to whatever HSS trigger you are using. For example if I want HSS on the Cl-360s then I would simply attach one of the YNE3-RX to the single Cells II transmitter then the canon transmitter would send the signal to the YNE3 to fire and it would send that signal to the Cells II w/ the HSS should pass through....

the only way you would want to do this is if you were using canon speedlights and 360's all in HSS and yes you shoudl be able to do this. Not sure about the 600b I have no experience with it but if you have a HSS trigger than yes you could pass through that trigger. "in theory".

Kinda double up really but it's all if you wanna trigger from the ST-E3/YN-E3 transmitters.


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May 02, 2015 16:21 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #4

actually I stand corrected I just tried and it will not pass through


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May 02, 2015 16:38 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #5

Maybe some new ideas from this page: http://flashhavoc.com …dio-trigger-alternatives/ (external link)




  
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May 02, 2015 17:28 |  #6

Update:

Crap... why did I even buy the Cells II???

Using the YNE3-RX attached to the shoe mount of the CL-360 linked to the Canon ST-E3...

HSS works and the unit fires. Meaning I have zero reason to own the Cells II when I get that function via the Canon Trigger. It's not like it changes anything since regardless you still have to have the FT-16 to remotely control the flash settins of the CL-360.

Recap: Canon Transmitter ---> YNE3-RX ----> CL-360. Canon transmitter set to HSS and the CL-360 set to HSS and it works just fine.

No need for Cells II when using YNE3-RX w/ ST-E3 or YN-E3 transmitters


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May 02, 2015 17:38 |  #7

Here... taken w/ my 5D3.. 1/800 2.8 ISO 1600

Fired from ST-E3 in HSS mounted on 5D3 obviously and the YNE3-RX mounted to the 360. I'll still keep the Cells II as it's a simpler setup for a single light application instead of having more crap hanging around. At least I have backups of backups of stuff now.

You see 1/1 on the receiver because thats what the transmitter is set to yet remember power settings on the transmitter does nothing... it's just a trigger but still allowing HSS to work. This is nice to know that when using speedlights you can achieve HSS for all speedlights/barebulbs at same time if needed with the Canon/YN transmitter. Not sure when you would want to though.

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May 02, 2015 21:48 |  #8

I actually was going to come and post the same type of results with almost the exact same setup. I have a Quantum T5D-R instead of the Cheetah lights.

I use the YNE3-RX with the household to PC sync cord. I have a ST-E3-RT and a YN-E3-RT, and they both work fine.

I have seemed to have somewhat inconsistent results with HSS. I will have to do some more legitimate tests, but HSS seemed to work at some shutter speeds, and not so well if at all at other shutter speeds. Right outside of the max sync speed at like 1/320, I had problems, but at 1/1000 I was fine. I read some blog the other day that said something about this being due to the duration of the actual flash.

Either way, I was pretty thrilled to find out that this worked.


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Nov 25, 2015 12:29 |  #9

Talley wrote in post #17540909 (external link)
Update:

Crap... why did I even buy the Cells II???

Using the YNE3-RX attached to the shoe mount of the CL-360 linked to the Canon ST-E3...

HSS works and the unit fires. Meaning I have zero reason to own the Cells II when I get that function via the Canon Trigger. It's not like it changes anything since regardless you still have to have the FT-16 to remotely control the flash settins of the CL-360.

Recap: Canon Transmitter ---> YNE3-RX ----> CL-360. Canon transmitter set to HSS and the CL-360 set to HSS and it works just fine.

No need for Cells II when using YNE3-RX w/ ST-E3 or YN-E3 transmitters


Did you try the 600rt as the transmitter as well? or just the st/yn-e3?




  
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Nov 25, 2015 14:42 |  #10

agrandexpression wrote in post #17796481 (external link)
Did you try the 600rt as the transmitter as well? or just the st/yn-e3?

The Canon 600EX-RT works with the YNE3-RX as does the Yongnuo YN600EX-RT. But beware that I am having issues with the YNE3-RX working with the new Godox AD360IIc flash. So I bought the new Laso RT receiver and it works with the new AD360IIc when using a Canon 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT but it will not link with the Yongnuo RT transmitters (YN-E3-RT or YN600EX-RT).


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Nov 25, 2015 15:25 |  #11

Talley wrote in post #17540909 (external link)
Update:

Crap... why did I even buy the Cells II???

Using the YNE3-RX attached to the shoe mount of the CL-360 linked to the Canon ST-E3...

HSS works and the unit fires. Meaning I have zero reason to own the Cells II when I get that function via the Canon Trigger. It's not like it changes anything since regardless you still have to have the FT-16 to remotely control the flash settins of the CL-360.

Recap: Canon Transmitter ---> YNE3-RX ----> CL-360. Canon transmitter set to HSS and the CL-360 set to HSS and it works just fine.

No need for Cells II when using YNE3-RX w/ ST-E3 or YN-E3 transmitters

So, pro-tip Talley, if you attach the YNE3-RX to the normal transmitter (non-Cells-II), it will pass through HSS to the AD360 (your models are flashpoint, btw, so no need to call them Cheetah Lights!). Found this out in July.


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Nov 25, 2015 15:27 |  #12

agv8or wrote in post #17796605 (external link)
The Canon 600EX-RT works with the YNE3-RX as does the Yongnuo YN600EX-RT. But beware that I am having issues with the YNE3-RX working with the new Godox AD360IIc flash. So I bought the new Laso RT receiver and it works with the new AD360IIc when using a Canon 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT but it will not link with the Yongnuo RT transmitters (YN-E3-RT or YN600EX-RT).

So let me see if I follow...

If I wanted to mix the AD360II with my RT system, I would need to put the Laso RT receiver on the hotshoe mount of the AD360II? That gives me full remote power control of the AD360II from my Canon 600ex-rt on camera? HSS?

Can i still control a yn600ex-rt and yne3-rt from that same canon 600ex-rt?




  
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Nov 25, 2015 15:31 |  #13

agrandexpression wrote in post #17796644 (external link)
So let me see if I follow...

If I wanted to mix the AD360II with my RT system, I would need to put the Laso RT receiver on the hotshoe mount of the AD360II? That gives me full remote power control of the AD360II from my Canon 600ex-rt on camera? HSS?

Can i still control a yn600ex-rt and yne3-rt from that same canon 600ex-rt?

No, it would just give you HSS. You still need the remote power control from the standard Godox transmitter. The only benefit is you can trigger the AD360 using the 600 exrt without an external transceiver attached to the camera and flash.


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Nov 25, 2015 17:34 |  #14

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agrandexpression wrote in post #17796644 (external link)
So let me see if I follow...

If I wanted to mix the AD360II with my RT system, I would need to put the Laso RT receiver on the hotshoe mount of the AD360II? That gives me full remote power control of the AD360II from my Canon 600ex-rt on camera? HSS?

Can i still control a yn600ex-rt and yne3-rt from that same canon 600ex-rt?

Short answer YES to full control as well as HSS. As long as you are using a Canon 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT as the transmitter it will work with both the YNE3-RX and YN600EX-RT as well as the Phottix Laso receiver, but only the Laso receiver will work with the AD360IIc. The Yongnuo YNE3-RX does not work with the AD360IIc, and the Yongnuo and Phottix RT devices do not play well together. It is all posted here in this thread where I have been testing the AD360IIc, TT685c and X1-C to see how well the AD360IIc will integrate into the Canon Wireless RT system. https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1444958

Just note that the Wireless Radio Slave configuration in the AD360II is for the new Godox 2.4G wireless system which is not compatible with the Canon Wireless RT system. In order to use the AD360IIc with the Canon RT system, on the Phottix Laso receiver, you need to set the AD360IIc to "NON Wireless" ETTL configuration. The same thing you would do to use a Canon compatible TTL flash that is not an RT compatible flash.

Edit: I think you ment to say YNE3-RX for what I have underlined in your statement. I missed it the first time through. There is currently only two receivers that work with the Canon RT system. The YNE3-RX and Laso. Only the Laso works with the AD360IIc and then only when, either a Canon 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT is being used as the Master. Everybody is reverse engineering their products to be Canon compatible but not compatible with each other. It is the only way I can explain why these third party flashes and Wireless RT devices are not working with each other. At least this has been my findings, others may find differently.


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