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May 06, 2015 16:39 |  #1

I got a Vello (external link) brand hood for my Canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS. $22 rather than Canon's $60. Wahoo!

Now I notice there's no felt liner. The plastic isn't exactly glossy, but it is smooth and I can see the light reflection when looking thru it (the hood only) at an off center bright light source.

Although it'll block the sun from the top, will it add noticeable sun reflection to the bottom?

Anyone have experience with this? Should I figure out a way to attach black felt to the inside?

I hadn't even thought about this - dooh!


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May 09, 2015 19:53 |  #2

NBEast wrote in post #17546356 (external link)
I got a Vello (external link) brand hood for my Canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS. $22 rather than Canon's $60. Wahoo!

Now I notice there's no felt liner. The plastic isn't exactly glossy, but it is smooth and I can see the light reflection when looking thru it (the hood only) at an off center bright light source.

Although it'll block the sun from the top, will it add noticeable sun reflection to the bottom?

Anyone have experience with this? Should I figure out a way to attach black felt to the inside?

I hadn't even thought about this - dooh!

I was looking to do the same thing. I ran across this but really didn't have the time to try it.


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May 11, 2015 13:59 |  #3

ebay usually has genuine canon hoods for $20


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May 11, 2015 21:28 |  #4

Copperny wrote in post #17549971 (external link)
I was looking to do the same thing. I ran across this but really didn't have the time to try it.

http://www.leevalley.c​om …t=1,250,43298,4​3300,44669 (external link)

$29 kit - its getting close to the $60 price I was avoiding. The suede leather thought gives me an idea though; I have some left over leather from my car interior and the inside isn't shiny at all. It's a little thick so might vignette unless I taper it back.

$20 for a genuine one from EBay is sounding good. Too late on this one but I have a couple other lenses that could benefit from a hood.


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May 11, 2015 21:49 |  #5

Considering the price of the hood I'd probably just abrade the inner surface with some sandpaper to make it less reflective.


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May 12, 2015 10:06 |  #6

You could use a flat black paint on the inside of the hood, preferably a textured one.


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May 12, 2015 17:15 |  #7

NBEast wrote in post #17546356 (external link)
I got a Vello (external link) brand hood for my Canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS. $22 rather than Canon's $60. Wahoo!

Now I notice there's no felt liner. The plastic isn't exactly glossy, but it is smooth and I can see the light reflection when looking thru it (the hood only) at an off center bright light source.

Although it'll block the sun from the top, will it add noticeable sun reflection to the bottom?

Anyone have experience with this? Should I figure out a way to attach black felt to the inside?

I hadn't even thought about this - dooh!


Have you actually tried the hood; you may be looking for a problem that you do not actually have!




  
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May 12, 2015 17:23 |  #8

edmunds optics, they have the real lining paper, unfortunately, only sold in large sheets.


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May 12, 2015 17:38 |  #9

Phototeacher wrote in post #17553925 (external link)
Have you actually tried the hood; you may be looking for a problem that you do not actually have!

Yes, I doubt the OP will notice flare problems except maybe in unusual situations.


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May 12, 2015 18:52 |  #10

Phototeacher wrote in post #17553925 (external link)
Have you actually tried the hood; you may be looking for a problem that you do not actually have!

I haven't tried it. I opened the box and this immediately popped out at me since I've only used Canon hoods. "Dooh! I didn't even think about that!".

It's all speculation; but:

  • It's a given that Canon puts it there for a reason.
  • "Edmund's Optics" offers the paper for a reason.
  • It's kind of obvious when thinking about it that you don't want something right next to the lens reflecting extraneous light into it.
  • Simple observation confirms that it's far more reflective than a Canon hood.

Am I observant enough to notice the difference if there is one? Good question.

It's right in there with "do I really notice the difference between my 135L and a mere consumer lens of that length?" The answer is; I like the former more at a glance for some undefined quality I can only really quantify after careful comparison of like-for-like photos put side-by-side. Even then it's only slight; but somehow the 135L image is just more pleasing.

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. Hopefully I'll find time to give it a go soon.

I wish there were some kind of touch-up-paint sized liquid made for this purpose. Maybe a buddy on the Stealth program can get me .... haha, joking.

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May 12, 2015 18:55 |  #11

Archibald wrote in post #17553944 (external link)
Yes, I doubt the OP will notice flare problems except maybe in unusual situations.

Maybe so, but I didn't really notice the need for a hood all that often either. I've had this lens 5 years without one and just got it on a whim.

Still; sometimes I'd shade the hood, and see a visible difference through the viewfinder when pointed towards very bright sunlight. Maybe I can just try doing the same with the hood on, using a black felt square.


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May 12, 2015 20:24 |  #12

Lens hoods are a hot topic here at POTN! And they are such simple devices and perform such a straightforward task.

Just put it on, take lots of pictures, and worry less. That's what I recommend. :-)


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May 13, 2015 17:38 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #13

+1

Good point!


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May 14, 2015 23:34 |  #14

I think I'll just rough it up with 80 grit sandpaper and be done with it. See photo #4 below - it looks great!

EDIT: Suggestions to simply sweep this under the rug are tempting, but nit-picking is a big part of hobbyist photography isn't it? LOL.

Here are some comparison shots. The Canon felt is impressive. Zero reflection!

1. New Vello hood.

IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-qbGWmGB/0/XL/IMG_8310-XL.jpg


2. Canon hood, same position/light.
IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-jtjb92C/0/L/IMG_8314-L.jpg

3. Vello partially sanded with 80 grit sandpaper.
IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-Snx6PJX/0/L/IMG_8304-L.jpg

4. Vello fully sanded. SUCCESS!
IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-N5R8g8d/0/L/IMG_8316-L.jpg

5. Canon compared with black lens cloth (a material I have enough of if double sided tape will work).
IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-RZNqcmt/0/L/IMG_8309-L.jpg

6. Vello hood, back of black car seat leather, and black lens cleaner cloth.

IMAGE: http://newport.smugmug.com/Forum-Posts/Hood/i-tgXLNX5/0/L/IMG_8298-L.jpg

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May 15, 2015 00:19 |  #15

Something like this http://www.amazon.com …Spray-Black/dp/B0026SGLWK (external link)
described as ' contains almost life-like fibers'. Too bad a review states, " it is not water proof or sweat proof. It does stain anything that rubs against it." Maybe another product, but waterproof, can be found!

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