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May 23, 2015 13:56 |  #16

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Man, that Cheetahboom looks like what I'm after. Something simple, all-inclusive, and it's not even expensive. I wonder if it's any different from Impact or other brands. Cheetah is just rebranded if I remember right?

But that kind of setup, the Cheetahboom with some bungees to secure and a counter weight (bag with waterbottles in it; serves two purposes!) looks like it might be promising.

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The boom has a hole in the back to mount the counter balance bag clip too, it wont fall off. Since its a combo stand and the boom slides into the stand it makes it compact and not liket a straight stand with a boom arm attached.

Impact is B&H rebranded stands, so it could be kupo, avenger, or other company.


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May 23, 2015 14:04 |  #17

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The boom has a hole in the back to mount the counter balance bag clip too, it wont fall off. Since its a combo stand and the boom slides into the stand it makes it compact and not liket a straight stand with a boom arm attached.

Impact is B&H rebranded stands, so it could be kupo, avenger, or other company.

Thanks!

I'm afraid this boomstand isn't really made to take on a 5.5lb monolight (Rovelite 600) and a modifier (36" ez-pro octa by Fotodiox?) in "boom" mode. The goal being able to just move the modifier a little off center from the stand, and shoot down at 45 degrees or so, with the stand and modifier out of the composition. I'll have to hunt down examples of people trying this to see if it's worth it. It would only need to hold the light about 1.5 feet from the center stand at an angle, possibly less even. Would have to play with it. My main concern though is if it will hold the weight and not just turn or drop the monolight down from it's weight. And of course, that's counter-weighted (sandbag with some waterbottles) and maybe even staking it down with bungees. So far my searches come up with nilch. So I may have to be the guinea pig and try it out. At $120, I can't complain too much as it fully does what I want in every way, except possibly the stability used as a boom with a strobe, since it's really designed for speedlites and light modifiers.

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May 23, 2015 14:08 |  #18

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I'm afraid this boomstand isn't really made to take on a 5.5lb monolight (Rovelite 600) and a modifier (36" ez-pro octa by Fotodiox?) in "boom" mode. The goal being able to just move the modifier a little off center from the stand, and shoot down at 45 degrees or so, with the stand and modifier out of the composition. I'll have to hunt down examples of people trying this to see if it's worth it. It would only need to hold the light about 1.5 feet from the center stand at an angle, possibly less even. Would have to play with it. My main concern though is if it will hold the weight and not just turn or drop the monolight down from it's weight. And of course, that's counter-weighted (sandbag with some waterbottles) and maybe even staking it down with bungees. So far my searches come up with nilch. So I may have to be the guinea pig and try it out. At $120, I can't complain too much as it fully does what I want in every way, except possibly the stability used as a boom with a strobe, since it's really designed for speedlites and light modifiers.

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Works fine with mine and I use the ez-pro 48" and i place the spigot in the down position and not straight out which puts less stress on the end of the arm.

You want to make sure to have some sandbags for the legs. I use ankle weights


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May 23, 2015 14:09 |  #19

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Works fine with mine and I use the ez-pro 48" and i place the spigot in the down position and not straight out which puts less stress on the end of the arm.

Interesting! Nice to know it handles it. I may have to try this.

Any chance you wouldn't mind showing a photo of what that setup looks like with your 48" in that position as you referred to?

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May 23, 2015 14:23 |  #20

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Interesting! Nice to know it handles it. I may have to try this.

Any chance you wouldn't mind showing a photo of what that setup looks like with your 48" in that position as you referred to?

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May 23, 2015 14:28 |  #21

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Thanks! Looks fantastic to me.

What strobe are you using there?

Thanks again; I think this will work!

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May 23, 2015 14:32 |  #22

In the picture I have the center column lowered because I have an 8 foot octa setting on it most of the time and with it up I can't put the octa on it.
Jinbei HD 600 which is the manufacture of the re-branded Adorama Rovelight RL 600

Again if your out on location I would use some sandbags or water bottles on the legs since it not a 30pound c stand


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May 23, 2015 14:39 |  #23

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In the picture I have the center column lowered because I have an 8 foot octa setting on it most of the time and with it up I can't put the octa on it.
Jinbei HD 600 which is the manufacture of the re-branded Adorama Rovelight RL 600

Again if your out on location I would use some sandbags or water bottles on the legs since it not a 30pound c stand

That settles it for me then, thank you so much, so this is basically the same setup as I was thinking of putting together (rovelight 600, 36" octa, some kind of portable boom capable stand). Looks like this will do the job for out and about shoots. I'll experiment with sandbagging, and/or staking to see what works best in grassy locations and in the wind. Might have to just employ both to ensure a good set. Bungees are fast enough.

Thanks again, super helpful!

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May 24, 2015 00:30 |  #24

An old review of my setup

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May 24, 2015 08:52 |  #25

Thanks!

Very similar and equally awesome, I definitely appreciate seeing the photo of your 1600 fully extended out like that. Nice!

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May 25, 2015 01:43 |  #26

Alveric wrote in post #17568092 (external link)
I want to migrate to Manfrotto's booms, and here's a question for Rico: can you vary the length of those? My studio area is not large –8 effective ft on the narrow side.

Most, but not all, booms have adjustable length, and the specs should be online. Be aware that the safely achieved extension is when the payload and the counterweight are at equilibrium. If that extension is too little or too much, the counterweight or payload must be changed accordingly. Simply extending the boom causes progressive imbalance that will quickly become a disaster.


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May 25, 2015 03:34 |  #27

Heya,

Seems hard to find a Fotodiox 48" EZ-Pro Octa with a Bowens insert in stock any where. I read in the manual that to replace the insert, it's simple, just unscrew it and replace it.

Anyone ever bought directly from Fotodiox?

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May 25, 2015 04:58 |  #28

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Heya,

Seems hard to find a Fotodiox 48" EZ-Pro Octa with a Bowens insert in stock any where. I read in the manual that to replace the insert, it's simple, just unscrew it and replace it.

Anyone ever bought directly from Fotodiox?

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I buy only direct and when you order just ask for the Bowens insert


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May 27, 2015 18:16 |  #29

MalVeaux, you might want to keep an eye out for a PCB boom. They no longer make it, but you might find one used. I picked one up of of craigslist today. Its shorter thsn many solid booms but long enough to get the light out of your way. Its got the counter weight built in and seems to be a handy unit.




  
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May 27, 2015 21:48 |  #30

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MalVeaux, you might want to keep an eye out for a PCB boom. They no longer make it, but you might find one used. I picked one up of of craigslist today. Its shorter thsn many solid booms but long enough to get the light out of your way. Its got the counter weight built in and seems to be a handy unit.

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out. I have a Cheetahstand shipping my way to try it out, and a 48" EZ-Pro. I'll see if I can make it work with a little staked bungee support just as a guarantee. If it can't hold 10lbs total of stuff, counter weighted, then I'll rethink it all and see just how heavy duty it has to be for outdoor use.

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