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Apr 01, 2016 00:31 |  #15586

OVF no way....


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Apr 01, 2016 00:36 |  #15587

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OVF no way....

It has both, OVF and EVF ;) Even better than that, it has an OVF that you can use a miniature EVF at the same time to use focus magnification or to just check your exposure, really high tech stuff.

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And with the flip of a switch you can use just the standard EVF or the OVF without the EVF overlay.


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Apr 01, 2016 01:02 |  #15588

vinmunoz wrote in post #17956645 (external link)
OVF no way....

afaik, the xpro is the only other mirrorless that uses rangefinder like view like leica. it's the same view all the time, but you use gridlines to frame.


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Apr 01, 2016 01:21 |  #15589

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17956653 (external link)
It has both, OVF and EVF ;) Even better than that, it has an OVF that you can use a miniature EVF at the same time to use focus magnification or to just check your exposure, really high tech stuff.

http://fujifilm-x.com …VF_part1/HMVF1_​Image2.jpg (external link)
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=0V8FuHG0YYU (external link)

And with the flip of a switch you can use just the standard EVF or the OVF without the EVF overlay.

WOW!


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Apr 01, 2016 01:37 |  #15590

I hate you guys... now i want to switch.... hahaha


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Apr 01, 2016 01:56 |  #15591

Much more fun to just use one of these :D

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Apr 01, 2016 03:10 |  #15592

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17956615 (external link)
Haha, nah, I'm pretty happy with it so far ;)

I would be amazed if the 50/1.8 turns out better, but it wouldn't make the Zeiss any worse. Honestly the main thing I'm struggling with now is if I want to get the X-Pro2 and if I did that and loved it, I don't know that I'd keep any of my Sony gear :eek: I don't see myself switching until there's a decent sized price drop though even if I do decide to go that route. And that'll be one of the few times where I'll be renting first to try it out first hand.

The X-Pro2 is a lovely camera and has an amazing established lens line up to go with it, but I must resist as it goes against my whole simplifying my camera gear approach!


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Apr 01, 2016 03:14 |  #15593

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I hate you guys... now i want to switch.... hahaha

Why do you want to switch? What does Fujifilm have for you that Sony doesn't?


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Apr 01, 2016 05:31 |  #15594

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Thank you for your feedback. I did use focus magnify at 12.5x with focus peaking set at high. Is that the highest magnification? It was a bit windy when I was shooting so the leaves moved. Still, the stone wall should be sharper. I'll keep testing.

I have better luck nailing focus with landscapes without focus magnification and simply focus peaking at normal magnification. The reason being is that I can't see where the focal plane is when its magnified, so its harder mentally to nail the focus.


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Apr 01, 2016 08:32 |  #15595

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I have better luck nailing focus with landscapes without focus magnification and simply focus peaking at normal magnification. The reason being is that I can't see where the focal plane is when its magnified, so its harder mentally to nail the focus.

Thanks Carlo. I tried that technique on a stone wall at our house using a tripod. I was able to dial in focus better but the images were still soft to me when zoomed in. I've looked at full res samples online and those are sharp even at f2.8. I ordered a new copy from B&H. Retuning my copy.


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Apr 01, 2016 08:34 |  #15596

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Thanks Carlo. I tried that technique on a stone wall at our house using a tripod. I was able to dial in focus better but the images were still soft to me when zoomed in. I've looked at full res samples online and those are sharp even at f2.8. I ordered a new copy from B&H. Retuning my copy.

That sucks. Good luck on the next copy!


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Apr 01, 2016 08:43 |  #15597

vinmunoz wrote in post #17956688 (external link)
I hate you guys... now i want to switch.... hahaha

Lol, sorry, but now you can at least somewhat understand why I'm conflicted ;)

danialsturge wrote in post #17956718 (external link)
The X-Pro2 is a lovely camera and has an amazing established lens line up to go with it, but I must resist as it goes against my whole simplifying my camera gear approach!

Haha, I know what you mean! The lenses are one of the biggest reasons I'm so tempted to switch too...

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Why do you want to switch? What does Fujifilm have for you that Sony doesn't?

The experience mostly. I can definitely appreciate that working professionals need the utmost image quality as their primary concern, but for those of us who mostly do this as a hobby I think the whole point is to enjoy it. If you don't think the VF of the X-Pro2 looks fun to use I think you'd be kidding yourself. They're also smaller and lighter with more engaging ergonomics. So the images might not be quite a7Rii level, but for most users I'm confident in saying that they're close enough while being simply more enjoyable to shoot with... Heck, even my X-E2 with it's standard EVF is more enjoyable for me to shoot with than my a7S.


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Apr 01, 2016 08:48 |  #15598

jocau wrote in post #17956719 (external link)
Why do you want to switch? What does Fujifilm have for you that Sony doesn't?

+1, rangefinder has its flaws. Not sure how the xpro2 handles it, but telephotos don't work well. The lens blocks the view, so I suspect you need to use full EVF at that point.

With the GM's coming and the 2 announcements, Sony is on a great pace. I can find most of my wants in FE Mount, just don't have the budget to keep up!


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Apr 01, 2016 08:54 |  #15599

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17956878 (external link)
The experience mostly. I can definitely appreciate that working professionals need the utmost image quality as their primary concern, but for those of us who mostly do this as a hobby I think the whole point is to enjoy it. If you don't think the VF of the X-Pro2 looks fun to use I think you'd be kidding yourself. They're also smaller and lighter with more engaging ergonomics. So the images might not be quite a7Rii level, but for most users I'm confident in saying that they're close enough while being simply more enjoyable to shoot with... Heck, even my X-E2 with it's standard EVF is more enjoyable for me to shoot with than my a7S.

This is my criticism with the MKII a7 bodies. The added size has diminished the fun-factor of the original a7 bodies. This is ultimately what drew me to the RX1, but the fuji x100 was on my short list too.

Sony is headed in the right direction with the a7 bodies and larger FE lenses, but there is a hole in the 'fun' FF cameras that I think they need to fill.


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Apr 01, 2016 09:48 |  #15600

Here's an interesting video on how to clean the sensor on a Sony a7rII. What I took away from it most importantly is how to prevent the sensor from moving while cleaning it due to the IBIS. In a nutshell, near the end of the video, he shows that when built in sensor cleaning is used (Toolbox icon, 3rd tab), the sensor will be off, locked and not moveable until the power is turned off and then back on. That would be the time to clean the sensor manually using his method or whatever method you prefer.

I use a Gel Stick made for Sony sensors (external link) but haven't used it on my a7rII yet because of the floating sensor. Now that I know how to lock it down, I can use the Gel Stick on this camera too.

Here's the video on cleaning the sensor. I have the link to the Gel Stick like I use above.



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