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May 05, 2016 08:35 |  #17251

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Thanks. I have to say...the camera has something to do with it...it keeps up with my creative side in a way that I felt inhibited before...

I have tried and tried and tried to calibrate my 5DS R colors to match what I get with the a7R II. Just can't quite do it. I love the a7R II color rendition (or any a7 series camera for that matter). Just look at those awesome greens in your image!

That's the stuff that makes me so bananas about the camera. Even my non-photographer wife agrees: my a7R II shots easily stand out from my 5DS R shots regarding color.


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May 05, 2016 08:42 |  #17252

David Arbogast wrote in post #17996577 (external link)
I have tried and tried and tried to calibrate my 5DS R colors to match what I get with the a7R II. Just can't quite do it. I love the a7R II color rendition (or any a7 series camera for that matter). Just look at those awesome greens in your image!

That's the stuff that makes me so bananas about the camera. Even my non-photographer wife agrees: my a7R II shots easily stand out from my 5DS R shots regarding color.

no doubt that the Sony files are just different, there is something unique about their color rendition. I have not done side by side comparisons...maybe I should this weekend, to see if I can figure it out...not that it matters...I don't see myself going back to my Canon 5DII...I keep it around as a backup FF right now...but would rather get an A7II....wish I could afford two RII but can't justify that expense just sitting in the bag....


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May 05, 2016 08:54 |  #17253

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no doubt that the Sony files are just different, there is something unique about their color rendition. I have not done side by side comparisons...maybe I should this weekend, to see if I can figure it out...not that it matters...I don't see myself going back to my Canon 5DII...I keep it around as a backup FF right now...but would rather get an A7II....wish I could afford two RII but can't justify that expense just sitting in the bag....

I think that is where logic is taking me as well. Sell 5DS R and get a lightly used a7R or a7 II for backup. I would have done so from the start, but I confess I've just struggled greatly with trust issues (whether legit or imagined) regarding Sony.


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May 05, 2016 09:07 |  #17254

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I think that is where logic is taking me as well. Sell 5DS R and get a lightly used a7 II for backup. I would have done so from the start, but I confess I've just struggled greatly with trust issues (whether legit or imagined) regarding Sony.

I think I am past my trust issues...the reality is, that for most of what I do...the A7RII is exceeding my expectations. For some of the work I do, I am aware that I might have an occasional hiccup shooting with adapted lenses...but it has not slowed me down and has been worth the one or two "moments" that it has communicating with the lens...it makes up for it by not failing me when it comes to focus being dead on...a worthy tradeoff really...


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David Arbogast wrote in post #17996596 (external link)
I think that is where logic is taking me as well. Sell 5DS R and get a lightly used a7R or a7 II for backup. I would have done so from the start, but I confess I've just struggled greatly with trust issues (whether legit or imagined) regarding Sony.

few months ago, you wanted to sell a7rII, quite a big turn around.

When I was in process of switching, I tried E-M5, E-M1, A7R, and none of them really made my sell the 5DIII yet... but once the a7RII came around, 5DIII was gone in a flash.


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I think I made a mistake buying the Sigma 150-600 sport, I miss the Tamron 150-600...

The sport is excellent lens, but I do most of my shooting handheld and the sport is quite heavy for longer outings...


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May 05, 2016 09:35 |  #17257

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few months ago, you wanted to sell a7rII, quite a big turn around.

When I was in process of switching, I tried E-M5, E-M1, A7R, and none of them really made my sell the 5DIII yet... but once the a7RII came around, 5DIII was gone in a flash.

And to be totally transparent, I have been waffling over this massively with back and forth swings in opinion for many months. One week I'm ready to go all Sony, all Canon the next. It is an insecurity thing really. One thing has stayed the same though: regarding image quality I have always preferred the a7R II.

This latest progression actually stems from coming very close to deciding to sell my a7R II. I felt "99% sure" I wanted to do it (to fund more lenses). So, I began comparitively testing the cameras more deliberately to be "100% sure". But, all that comparison testing did was make it clear I was never going to bring myself to sell the a7R II. When carefully comparing my raw files the a7R II just stands out too much. That's when I realized it's the Canon that I can live without, not the Sony.


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May 05, 2016 09:42 |  #17258

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And to be totally transparent, I have been waffling over this massively with back and forth swings in opinion for many months. One week I'm ready to go all Sony, all Canon the next. It is an insecurity thing really. One thing has stayed the same though: regarding image quality I have always preferred the a7R II.

This latest progression actually stems from coming very close to deciding to sell my a7R II. I felt "99% sure" I wanted to do it (to fund more lenses). So, I began comparitively testing the cameras more deliberately to be "100% sure". But, all that comparison testing did was make it clear I was never going to bring myself to sell the a7R II. When carefully comparing my raw files the a7R II just stands out too much. That's when I realized it's the Canon that I can live without, not the Sony.

It takes time actually shooting with something for a while to figure out what you want to do. I straddled two systems for a while too. There are still some things I like native Canon bodies for...but experience showed me that I was using my Sony far more frequently so I sold the body to fund more lenses.


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May 05, 2016 09:48 |  #17259

And the good news is if you sell the Canon body, you can still keep and use all those Canon lenses. Of course if you sell the Sony, then any Sony lens you have would be rendered useless (I understand you have all Canon lenses David).


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May 05, 2016 09:56 |  #17260

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...but experience showed me that I was using my Sony far more frequently so I sold the body to fund more lenses.

That hits the nail on the head for me. I do love the 5DS R, but full confession here: I only use it when I remind myself to use it. In Charleston I only used it for one single picture! It's time for that reality sink in.

Same thing with my lenses. I think the 24-70L II is fantastic. Just one problem: I only use it when I go out of the way force myself too. Otherwise I'm using the Otus 55 or 35L II. So, going to sell the 24-70L II due to lack of use and get something I know I'll use (Loxia 21).


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May 05, 2016 10:45 |  #17261

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Thanks. I have to say...the camera has something to do with it...it keeps up with my creative side in a way that I felt inhibited before...

I know exactly how you feel. I like my A7RII so much that i am able to make much better pictures than ever


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May 05, 2016 10:52 |  #17262

David Arbogast wrote in post #17996577 (external link)
I have tried and tried and tried to calibrate my 5DS R colors to match what I get with the a7R II. Just can't quite do it. I love the a7R II color rendition (or any a7 series camera for that matter). Just look at those awesome greens in your image!

That's the stuff that makes me so bananas about the camera. Even my non-photographer wife agrees: my a7R II shots easily stand out from my 5DS R shots regarding color.

But i must say the A7R i had and my A7S dont render color just as nice as the A7RII. Ive yet had to encounter a shot with it which i can simply not get the colors to look good. This happens a lot withmy A7S and when i had the A7R


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mystik610 wrote in post #17996671 (external link)
It takes time actually shooting with something for a while to figure out what you want to do. I straddled two systems for a while too. There are still some things I like native Canon bodies for...but experience showed me that I was using my Sony far more frequently so I sold the body to fund more lenses.

My first venture into mirrorless was E-M5, was a great camera, I still like Olympus, and I wanted more!

So when E-M1 was released I end up with E-M1, and I gotta say its still my favorite camera of all time, I still had the 5DIII as well.
Shortly after getting the E-M1, I decided to get the A7R, for 4-6 months I had 3 camera systems, but the a7R, had way to many flaws, AF system wasn't good, loud, build quality questionable, shutter shock, metabones was a joke back then.... ao A7R had to go.

shortly after that I bought E-M10 for my fiance, she loved the camera.
I really like the Olympus system, but that 4/3 sensor always bothered me, the size, the shape of it.

When a7II was released I was impressed with the changes, but decided to wait for the new R, when a7RII was released after trying it first, I decided to make the jump.
At one point I bought the Canon M3, and my fiance hates that camera with a passion.

E-M1, E-M10, 5DIII all had to go, recently also bought a6300 and A6300 is my fiance's preferred camera now.

If Olympus ever makes full frame camera, that could easily tempt me to switch again.
E-M1 is still the best camera ever released for me, if only they would drop that 4/3 sensors.

But anyway, I had 3 systems at one point, I still technically have 2, but the 7DII haven't been used in 4+ months.

Canon still might be better with longer telephotos, but that is also due to there not being any native longer telephotos lenses available.


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May 05, 2016 11:12 |  #17264

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But i must say the A7R i had and my A7S dont render color just as nice as the A7RII. Ive yet had to encounter a shot with it which i can simply not get the colors to look good. This happens a lot withmy A7S and when i had the A7R

I don't want to see those images. I've been happy with both the 7R and 7S. Here's the 7s at 50 percent crop. The light was golden.

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May 05, 2016 12:01 |  #17265

davidfarina wrote in post #17996742 (external link)
But i must say the A7R i had and my A7S dont render color just as nice as the A7RII. Ive yet had to encounter a shot with it which i can simply not get the colors to look good. This happens a lot withmy A7S and when i had the A7R

I struggled at first with the 7R and even some with the 7R2...its just different, and requires editing differently...but the results are much better.


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