Sony A7x lounge

davidfarina wrote in post #18040936
I think i use it since it came out and i really love that lens. Its a fantastic performer, and as sharp as one would need it. Its actually the lens that id never sell just because of its performance and versatility of zoom

Is F4 on the FE1635 limiting for milkyway with the A7RII?

how about the AF of the Canon 16-35F2.8II on the A7RII, has anyone tried?

vinmunoz wrote in post #18040954
Is F4 on the FE1635 limiting for milkyway with the A7RII?

how about the AF of the Canon 16-35F2.8II on the A7RII, has anyone tried?

It is limiting, but i got it to work with the A7R at ISO 3200. I guess with the A7RII there is no problem since it handles low light so fantastically.

I had the Canon 16-35 2.8II and it really is a bad lens. Corner sharpness is awfully bad and sunstars as well as flare resistance was bad too. I wasnt happy with that lens and was amazed how the 16-35 from sony performed. Yes it is f/4, but it sure is one heck of a lens and has OSS. In addition, the aperture is just one stop slower so not really a big deal...

awesome FE it is. My next lens for sure. Thank you.

I actually love the sun stars that the Canon 16-35L II lens produces. I do agree about poor corner performance but the center and surrounding areas are sharp enough, not razor sharp but good. I would not use it for astrophotography.

Still, if you want to go native, you can't go wrong with the FE version.

thanks for your input bro. Yah I'll just go with the FE.

xpfloyd wrote in post #18040210
You wouldn't be able to read my accent

'Cept me, Eddie!

For those of you guys with the a6300, would you have any issues making it your primary camera?

My predicament is whether or not I would be satisfied enough using just the a6300. Having two small kids and having to spend a lot of time just me and them alone I realized that size/weight is an a super premium.

I'm thinking of just using a a6300 for the majority of shooting with a few crop lenses (20 pancake, 24 prime, maybe get the 55, and the 10-18,16-70). Obviously not carry all at the same time. But pick and choose depending on the situation.

After shooting full frame mostly for the past two years (FF dslr and a7 series) I'm just worried if I've developed a case of FF snotiness and would be ok with going back to crop (admittedly the a6300 is probably the top of the heap). But the a6300 seems to do everything I want in a much smaller package than the a7 series.

If you had to give up your a7/RX1 and they never existed and could only shoot the a6300, would it be enough? Or would you guys still have a FF DSLR in your lineup?

xpfloyd wrote in post #18040921
I lurk in the Fuji threads so knew you were posting. I was expecting this post to say you were selling your Sony there when I clicked it

I keep contemplating it, but the a7S really does produce amazing photos, it's hard to let go of. I'm going to wait to see what the X-T2 looks like.

uljens wrote in post #18040934
need your personal opinion again this time from those who used/uses A7s and how it compares to a7II
now shooting with A7II and need to add 2nd body (more for paid jobs like weddings etc, in weekdays will use only one body)
price wise used a7S ~ new a7II
about a7II everything clear
looking from wedding perspective, its better to add A7s due its high ISO performance, silent shutter. IBIS, 12mp would not be an isue.

So about a7s:
1. how is AF in normal light/ low light compared to a7II (-4 EV vs -1EV, a7s have only CDAF)?
2. how ISO performance above 6400 (info on web says, that till 6400 performs like other A7*, and the gem starts from 6400 and up to 51tk)?
3. if Im not wrong, a7S also have face recognition and eye-af, correct?

two equal bodies or a7s + a7II combo, that's the question

The a7S definitely has face and eye detection. I can't say how it compares to an a7ii, but I can tell you that it kicks the pants off of the a7R in every way regarding AF performance and high ISO capability (even as low as ISO1600, the a7S is significantly better).

I know the original a7 was supposed to be about the same as the a7R in terms of low light so I'm assuming the a7S is also significantly better than the a7ii in regards to high ISO.

I don't know how the AF compares to the a7ii, but in single shot AF I find it to be very snappy and accurate, I have very few missed shots.

TMaG82 wrote in post #18040983
For those of you guys with the a6300, would you have any issues making it your primary camera?

My predicament is whether or not I would be satisfied enough using just the a6300. Having two small kids and having to spend a lot of time just me and them alone I realized that size/weight is an a super premium.

I'm thinking of just using a a6300 for the majority of shooting with a few crop lenses (20 pancake, 24 prime, maybe get the 55, and the 10-18,16-70). Obviously not carry all at the same time. But pick and choose depending on the situation.

After shooting full frame mostly for the past two years (FF dslr and a7 series) I'm just worried if I've developed a case of FF snotiness and would be ok with going back to crop (admittedly the a6300 is probably the top of the heap). But the a6300 seems to do everything I want in a much smaller package than the a7 series.

If you had to give up your a7/RX1 and they never existed and could only shoot the a6300, would it be enough? Or would you guys still have a FF DSLR in your lineup?

if crop, then i would go with Fujifilm XPRO2. I love the more vintage look. I'm sure if the AF is also faster including the tracking. the Live Bulb mode is super awesome IMO.

TMaG82 wrote in post #18040983
I'm just worried if I've developed a case of FF snotiness

I'm afraid I have a terminal case of FF snootiness. Bigger the sensor the better imo. Only reasons I'm not shooting medium format are: 1. I can't afford it, 2. Cameras are huge (even for me).

That said, I do respect and acknowledge that aps-c (or smaller) sensors are perfectly capable of tremendous image quality. And I have, more than once, thought about downgrading to APS-C as well because it would be a lot smaller system.

I think I would agree with Vinz though. If I did switch to aps-c I would probably settle on the best Fuji I could get (XT-2 should be out soon) simply because the lens ecosystem is probably better. Well, that's my sense anyway - haven't thoroughly researched it yet. The 6300 is, no doubt, an awesome aps-c camera, but it makes a bit more sense to me as a supplement to an a7 series camera.

vinmunoz wrote in post #18041036
if crop, then i would go with Fujifilm XPRO2. I love the more vintage look. I'm sure if the AF is also faster including the tracking. the Live Bulb mode is super awesome IMO.

Lol, my GAS obsession has already gone through the X-Pro 2. Great camera, love the dual card slots and the AF joystick. I've just gotten used to shooting with a tilt screen and AF-C still is lacking. It's notable bigger as well. While the grip is improved, still could be better. I shot with an NEX-6 for the first year or so of my daughter and still has fond memories. The appeal of the Fujis (manual dials and ISO/Aperture ring/SS) are mostly lost on me. Having the dancing boxes would help get my kids in focus.

David Arbogast wrote in post #18041046
I'm afraid I have a terminal case of FF snootiness. Bigger the sensor the better imo. Only reasons I'm not shooting medium format are: 1. I can't afford it, 2. Cameras are huge (even for me).

That said, I do respect and acknowledge that aps-c (or smaller) sensors are perfectly capable of tremendous image quality. And I have, more than once, thought about downgrading to APS-C as well because it would be a lot smaller system.

I think I would agree with Vinz though. If I did switch to aps-c I would probably settle on the best Fuji I could get (XT-2 should be out soon) simply because the lens ecosystem is probably better. Well, that's my sense anyway - haven't thoroughly researched it yet. The 6300 is, no doubt, an awesome aps-c camera, but it makes a bit more sense to me as a supplement to an a7 series camera.

No doubt the Fuji lens system is much better and continuing to grow. At this point though I'm not demanding needing a ton of lenses though. I realized that once I pass 4 lenses I start to develop analysis paralysis trying to decide which lens to use. For me I could do with one standard zoom, one standard prime (50ish), one portrait prime (85ish), and one 35mm lens. The Sony e-mount has all of that.

at least one opinion, thanks

If one is completely switching from FF to a crop sensor, I suppose the system chosen is a matter of choice, as long as one is willing to switch lenses, flash and other camera specific paraphernalia found in your bag. For me the choice was easy since I added to my existing FF system rather than switch. It just made more sense to buy a crop sensor camera that shares the same lenses, batteries, has a familiar menu system and all my flashes/ remotes, etc work with both cameras.

TMaG82 wrote in post #18040983
For those of you guys with the a6300, would you have any issues making it your primary camera?

My predicament is whether or not I would be satisfied enough using just the a6300. Having two small kids and having to spend a lot of time just me and them alone I realized that size/weight is an a super premium.

I'm thinking of just using a a6300 for the majority of shooting with a few crop lenses (20 pancake, 24 prime, maybe get the 55, and the 10-18,16-70). Obviously not carry all at the same time. But pick and choose depending on the situation.

After shooting full frame mostly for the past two years (FF dslr and a7 series) I'm just worried if I've developed a case of FF snotiness and would be ok with going back to crop (admittedly the a6300 is probably the top of the heap). But the a6300 seems to do everything I want in a much smaller package than the a7 series.

If you had to give up your a7/RX1 and they never existed and could only shoot the a6300, would it be enough? Or would you guys still have a FF DSLR in your lineup?

I wouldn't go back to FF DSLR, not sure if A6300 could be enough, its an amazing camera, with great AF, and eye-af really helps with getting my (almost) 2 year old in focus.

TMaG82 wrote in post #18040983
For those of you guys with the a6300, would you have any issues making it your primary camera?

My predicament is whether or not I would be satisfied enough using just the a6300. Having two small kids and having to spend a lot of time just me and them alone I realized that size/weight is an a super premium.

I'm thinking of just using a a6300 for the majority of shooting with a few crop lenses (20 pancake, 24 prime, maybe get the 55, and the 10-18,16-70). Obviously not carry all at the same time. But pick and choose depending on the situation.

After shooting full frame mostly for the past two years (FF dslr and a7 series) I'm just worried if I've developed a case of FF snotiness and would be ok with going back to crop (admittedly the a6300 is probably the top of the heap). But the a6300 seems to do everything I want in a much smaller package than the a7 series.

If you had to give up your a7/RX1 and they never existed and could only shoot the a6300, would it be enough? Or would you guys still have a FF DSLR in your lineup?

I purchased the XT1 previously and switched from my 5D2. I then didnt like the IQ and subsequently went to canon then sony. Being a pixel peeper I could tell it was a crop sensor and I also didnt like the way the files were handled in LR (others may disagree but thats what happened). Fast forward to now. I have bene using the A7RII and love the IQ, love everything about it in fact. I just added the A6300 and genuinely feel that if that camera had came out before the A7RII (and assuming I had gave it a try) I probably would have settled on it (definitely, maybe ). The AF is better than the A7RII. The size and weight is better for me shooting mainly my family and young son. Paired with lenses like the FE55, FE35 2.8 and FE28 its just immense and still small. Its even great with slightly larger lenses like the Batis range. Pixel peeping it doesnt show any issues. The only negative is that the high ISO is not as good as the A7RII. Instead of keeping the NR in LR to zero like I do with A7RII high ISO files I have it set to 25 for high ISO A6300 files but its a very minor negative.

Suffering from constant GAS I would be a liar if I was to say I could stick with that camera as my only camera for good but my point is its an amazing camera and theres no reason why it couldnt be a main camera