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Nov 07, 2016 07:51 |  #26656

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hmmmm, i need my wife to watch me work next time.... thanks for the tips.

seriously congrats in advance. You can't wait a little longer for the Mark III? Maybe it's just around the corner.

I am not sure why I am going to do...I am conflicted. I have a feeling that the A7R3 will be much too far out of my price range...and a full system switch right now...just isn't going to happen...I shot that session yesterday mostly with my 135L, with the 50ART thrown in for a few shots. There is no 135 option other than MF, and I can't do MF...so I am not sure what I am going to do...


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Nov 07, 2016 08:17 |  #26657

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I am not sure why I am going to do...I am conflicted. I have a feeling that the A7R3 will be much too far out of my price range...and a full system switch right now...just isn't going to happen...I shot that session yesterday mostly with my 135L, with the 50ART thrown in for a few shots. There is no 135 option other than MF, and I can't do MF...so I am not sure what I am going to do...

The a7 models (non-"R" or "S") tend to be priced much lower so hopefully the a7III is <$2,000 for body only. I'm playing the waiting game with regards to my second body. I might get an a6000/6300 to use in the meantime. Waiting to see what the black Friday deals on these cameras will look like.

I'm sure a native 135 will be here soon. It's such an obviously gaping hole in a lens line-up that Sony has done a good job building out. I don't see them ignoring it for much longer.


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Nov 07, 2016 08:28 |  #26658

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The a7 models (non-"R" or "S") tend to be priced much lower so hopefully the a7III is <$2,000 for body only. I'm playing the waiting game with regards to my second body. I might get an a6000/6300 to use in the meantime. Waiting to see what the black Friday deals on these cameras will look like.

I'm sure a native 135 will be here soon. It's such an obviously gaping hole in a lens line-up that Sony has done a good job building out. I don't see them ignoring it for much longer.

I am very torn...even to the point of keeping the Sony for Landscapes...and going back to a 5DIV for portrait/architecture work...


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Nov 07, 2016 08:31 |  #26659

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I am very torn...even to the point of keeping the Sony for Landscapes...and going back to a 5DIV for portrait/architecture work...

I wouldn't do it....Sony is a much better for portraits because of eye focus and AF accuracy overall. I never want to re-live the micro-focus nightmare again.


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Nov 07, 2016 08:56 |  #26660

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I wouldn't do it....Sony is a much better for portraits because of eye focus and AF accuracy overall. I never want to re-live the micro-focus nightmare again.

I know...that is what keeps holding me back...but I don't have EYE-AF with adapted lenses...and actually struggle with the face detect...maybe I need to learn what settings need to be right to use face detect LOL!

my catch is still the need to shoot sports/motorsports...a​s it is, the Son'y can't do it...maybe the A7III will be fast like the A6500....that would be really nice...


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Nov 07, 2016 09:08 |  #26661

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I know...that is what keeps holding me back...but I don't have EYE-AF with adapted lenses...and actually struggle with the face detect...maybe I need to learn what settings need to be right to use face detect LOL!

my catch is still the need to shoot sports/motorsports...a​s it is, the Son'y can't do it...maybe the A7III will be fast like the A6500....that would be really nice...

Face detect is useful for something like event shooting where you're shooting at smaller aperture (f2.8 zooms), are less picky about critical focus accuracy, and need a system to quickly find faces in chaotic scenes, but not so great for posed portraiture. When using adapted lenses I would often turn face detect off and go back to the old school method of pointing a small AF point on my subjects eyes. Even with that, AF performance is much better than my old 5DIII. Hell back when I had the original a7r and the 5DIII, I actually found myself reaching for my a7r in manual focus mode as that gave me a higher percentage of keepers than the DSLR.

We already have a peak into the future of the a7III with the a99II and a6500, and its a bright future :-). Big question for me is $$$. I don't see myself buying another $3k body.


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Nov 07, 2016 09:32 |  #26662

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Face detect is useful for something like event shooting where you're shooting at smaller aperture (f2.8 zooms), are less picky about critical focus accuracy, and need a system to quickly find faces in chaotic scenes, but not so great for posed portraiture. When using adapted lenses I would often turn face detect off and go back to the old school method of pointing a small AF point on my subjects eyes. Even with that, AF performance is much better than my old 5DIII. Hell back when I had the original a7r and the 5DIII, I actually found myself reaching for my a7r in manual focus mode as that gave me a higher percentage of keepers than the DSLR.

We already have a peak into the future of the a7III with the a99II and a6500, and its a bright future :-). Big question for me is $$$. I don't see myself buying another $3k body.

right now I rely on using a small focus point that I move around to find an eye...and it works extremely well...the errors come from me...

I might have to wait and see what comes out...$3-4K is what I am budgeting for gear acquisition in January...if I can spread it out over a body and a lens or two, that would be great...


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Nov 07, 2016 10:18 |  #26663

Sharing a few from our weekend trip to La Jolla.

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Nov 07, 2016 10:26 |  #26664

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right now I rely on using a small focus point that I move around to find an eye...and it works extremely well...the errors come from me...

I might have to wait and see what comes out...$3-4K is what I am budgeting for gear acquisition in January...if I can spread it out over a body and a lens or two, that would be great...

Any thoughts on adding the 70-200 GM? Even with the a7rII the AF is VERY good, and its a very good portrait lens too. Not as good as the SAL 135 f1.8 if I really critique the bokeh between the two lenses, but very good either way.

A6500 + 70-200 would be right around your $4k budget and I imagine that it would cover your motorsports photos well while also complimenting the a7rII as a back-up.


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Nov 07, 2016 10:28 |  #26665

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Cool shots man. What lens was the UWA shot on? Voigtlander?


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Nov 07, 2016 10:49 |  #26666

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Any thoughts on adding the 70-200 GM? Even with the a7rII the AF is VERY good, and its a very good portrait lens too. Not as good as the SAL 135 f1.8 if I really critique the bokeh between the two lenses, but very good either way.

A6500 + 70-200 would be right around your $4k budget and I imagine that it would cover your motorsports photos well while also complimenting the a7rII as a back-up.

the A6xxx is just too small for me...for a day at the track, or a sports event, it just doesn't have the ergonomics for me to shoot with it for a full day or weekend...


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Nov 07, 2016 10:50 |  #26667

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Cool shots man. What lens was the UWA shot on? Voigtlander?

Thank you Carlo. Yes, CV10. I don't know why but I mainly opted to use the CV10 for most UWA shots. I guess I just prefer the rendering of CV10 over B18 or B25. I still can't wait til I try the L21. :)


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Nov 07, 2016 10:53 |  #26668

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Thank you Carlo. Yes, CV10. I don't know why but I mainly opted to use the CV10 for most UWA shots. I guess I just prefer the rendering of CV10 over B18 or B25. I still can't wait til I try the L21. :)

I know that they get a lot of flack because they are not the best optically, but the rendering of those Voigtlander lenses have always stood out to me. Plus the sunstars!


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Nov 07, 2016 10:55 |  #26669

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the A6xxx is just too small for me...for a day at the track, or a sports event, it just doesn't have the ergonomics for me to shoot with it for a full day or weekend...

Ah yeah...I think they're too small too. Given the feature-set, I think the a6500 would have made more sense as an a7000 with a larger body. We know that its using a slightly larger frame than the a6300, so its not like they're sharing parts to keep costs down.


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Nov 07, 2016 13:21 |  #26670

Got back last night from an impromptu trip to Death Valley (just a quick overnighter). The weather did not cooperate all that much, so I'm not expecting many great captures.
A couple of things became abundantly clear to me though:

1. I cannot keep on going on these landscape outings with 5+ lenses and all this gear.
2. I might be better off with zooms.

We hit up the Mesquite Sand Dunes area for sunrise. Which is a photographer's dream location. It involved hiking up 50 foot high sand dunes (loose sand). Which is not AT ALL pleasant when carrying a tripod, a backpack and a shoulder bag, altogether. The fumbling around, while trying not to drop anything in the sand (or set anything down) was brutal. It would have been hard enough hiking around like that without carrying ANYING, let alone with all the gear I had.
Add to that the constant switching of lenses (I'm an all-prime shooter at the moment), and it was a nightmare. I didn't drop anything, but after about 15 minutes, my sensor was pretty dusty looking (visible to the naked eye).
Moreover, all of this took away the enjoyment of photography. I basically found myself at this great location, wishing the ordeal was over after about 20 minutes, because I could not for the life of me relax and focus myself enough to take in the view, or think about composition.

Bottom line:
1. I am considering selling all my primes and going with a 2 zoom option (24-70GM and 70-200/4) + maybe one UWA (15 mm, or 18mm).
2. I still find the Sony experience extremely annoying. It never fails. Right when I'm in the middle of "that moment", I have to find some setting that I don't have mapped anywhere (in this case it was the "disable auto viewfinder") and end up wasting precious time fumbling around trying to dive through the menus.

Look for some big changes coming up in my lineup....Pretty sure I'm done with the current approach.


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