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May 15, 2017 05:25 |  #32956

The RX1Rii is a sweet little piece of gear, I think it would be fun to own one...but its just so pricey...the images you make with it look great Carlo.


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May 15, 2017 05:56 |  #32957

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With the price increases on the rx1rii could you actually sell it at zero loss now? If I was you I would as it's probably the only chance you will get to do that at no loss. As much as I would absolutely LOVE an rx1rii it's a crazy high price for a P&S , albeit an awesome 42mp P&S. A second a7rii and a 35 1.4 makes more sense to me for what I see as your uses or even an a9 in addition to your a7rii if you can swing it.

Man it's easy spending other people's money :) . I wish my own lens and camera choices were as simple to me

I bought mine used from BH so I might actually be able to come out slightly ahead on the sale. But I really like this thing and I would really regret selling it! Plus it looks like a photoshoot, but it really performs like a second a7rII.

On paper A9 sounds like the right tool for the job of paid work, but I'm really trying to treat this like a business and really rationalizing the cost....I have 4 more weddings in the pipeline and something like the a9 would basically pay for itself, but TBH its kind of hard to rationalize the a9 when realistically, I've been able to shoot 4 weddings and a lot of other events with the a7rII and RX1RII. As nice as a lot of the features on the a9 are, I don't necessarily consider them to be must haves to get the job done.

Second a7rII is really the most practical way to go though. I actually think an a7II would be sufficient as a back-up to the a7rII.

I have until September to make a decision....my opinion might change by then


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May 15, 2017 06:30 |  #32958

mystik610 wrote in post #18354986 (external link)
I bought mine used from BH so I might actually be able to come out slightly ahead on the sale. But I really like this thing and I would really regret selling it! Plus it looks like a photoshoot, but it really performs like a second a7rII.

On paper A9 sounds like the right tool for the job of paid work, but I'm really trying to treat this like a business and really rationalizing the cost....I have 4 more weddings in the pipeline and something like the a9 would basically pay for itself, but TBH its kind of hard to rationalize the a9 when realistically, I've been able to shoot 4 weddings and a lot of other events with the a7rII and RX1RII. As nice as a lot of the features on the a9 are, I don't necessarily consider them to be must haves to get the job done.

Second a7rII is really the most practical way to go though. I actually think an a7II would be sufficient as a back-up to the a7rII.

I have until September to make a decision....my opinion might change by then

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I bought mine used from BH so I might actually be able to come out slightly ahead on the sale. But I really like this thing and I would really regret selling it! Plus it looks like a photoshoot, but it really performs like a second a7rII.

On paper A9 sounds like the right tool for the job of paid work, but I'm really trying to treat this like a business and really rationalizing the cost....I have 4 more weddings in the pipeline and something like the a9 would basically pay for itself, but TBH its kind of hard to rationalize the a9 when realistically, I've been able to shoot 4 weddings and a lot of other events with the a7rII and RX1RII. As nice as a lot of the features on the a9 are, I don't necessarily consider them to be must haves to get the job done.

Second a7rII is really the most practical way to go though. I actually think an a7II would be sufficient as a back-up to the a7rII.

I have until September to make a decision....my opinion might change by then

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Watching eye Af respond like this makes me really consider the a9. I'm also holding off until June/July as my a6500 is handling my family duties well but I have a number of paid gigs coming up around late summer/early fall and if the a9 is all it says it is, it'll probably find its way into my bag.


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May 15, 2017 08:00 |  #32959

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https://youtu.be/OmYw1​jAxho4 (external link)

Watching eye Af respond like this makes me really consider the a9. I'm also holding off until June/July as my a6500 is handling my family duties well but I have a number of paid gigs coming up around late summer/early fall and if the a9 is all it says it is, it'll probably find its way into my bag.

Holy Moly! I was discussing eye focus here the other day. My camera can't even come close to this. Honestly, it simply doesn't work for me. Tried it again yesterday with posed portraits ~10-15 ft away with a big fat no go. Conclusion...eye focus on a6500 is useless.


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May 15, 2017 08:34 |  #32960

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Holy Moly! I was discussing eye focus here the other day. My camera can't even come close to this. Honestly, it simply doesn't work for me. Tried it again yesterday with posed portraits ~10-15 ft away with a big fat no go. Conclusion...eye focus on a6500 is useless.

I think it depends on how far the subject is from the camera. For best results for eye focus, the face for me has to fill a significant part of the frame, anywhere from half the frame to about 25-30% of the frame. Far enough away and it will kick to face detect.


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May 15, 2017 08:38 as a reply to  @ TMaG82's post |  #32961

So reliable for head shots and not much else. I guess I expected more initially after watching Gary Fong's video. In that he was taking full length portraits with an 85 mm lens using eye focus. He goes on and on about how awesome it is. Not my experience.


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May 15, 2017 08:42 |  #32962

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So I've been trying to rationalize my gear lately (does that process ever stop?) particularly around what I'm using for paid work....In that view the RX1RII is the most impractical piece of gear to own. Realistically I could sell that and buy a second a7rII + FE 35 1.4 in the used market. I'm also thinking about the a9 as a very solid tool....its more than I want to spend but the RX1RII could finance most of that cost.

But the RX1RII is actually a capable little cam. Battery life aside, its actually really capable for paid work and it gets more use for events and portrait sessions than I really expected it to. I also have a certain love for this little camera....lots of fun to shoot with, easy to carry around when out with the family, and IQ really allows me to turn ordinary snap-shots into much more than that. Plus eye focus works really well when shooting my kids doing their thing. Very accurate, and really simplifies the compositional process when I'm running and gunning with the family

A couple of the shots from this wknd with the RX1RII:

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i would vote for selling the RX1RII for the A9.


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May 15, 2017 09:17 |  #32963

Sold my Canon 6D and all my Canon lens. What I'm supposed to do with all this extra $$ :-x




  
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May 15, 2017 09:21 |  #32964

idsurfer wrote in post #18355053 (external link)
Holy Moly! I was discussing eye focus here the other day. My camera can't even come close to this. Honestly, it simply doesn't work for me. Tried it again yesterday with posed portraits ~10-15 ft away with a big fat no go. Conclusion...eye focus on a6500 is useless.

Eye-AF seems to work even better on the a9. I'm starting to think that there is more to the AF system than Sony is letting on. Someone in SAR pointed out that the specs on the sony website show that the a9 actually has a 28mp sensor, but only 24mp effective (only 24mp is used for actual imaging). My speculation is that 4mp of 'unused' pixels are actually dedicated for PDAF...similar to Canon's dual pixel AF. If this is the case, this should greatly improve sensitivity of the PDAF system since these pixels would not be sharing the light hitting these pixels with the imaging portion of the sensor....this is why adapted lenses crap-out in low light on current Sony cameras.

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I think it depends on how far the subject is from the camera. For best results for eye focus, the face for me has to fill a significant part of the frame, anywhere from half the frame to about 25-30% of the frame. Far enough away and it will kick to face detect.


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So reliable for head shots and not much else. I guess I expected more initially after watching Gary Fong's video. In that he was taking full length portraits with an 85 mm lens using eye focus. He goes on and on about how awesome it is. Not my experience.

Eye AF still works for loosely framed subjects for me. i.e. those photos of my kids on the RX1RII were framed loosely with eye AF, and you can tell they weren't sitting still at all.

It will stop working if the subject's face is really small in the frame...it works for half body shots, but not for full body shots. At that point it drops to face detect, but usually by then the DOF is wide enough that critical focus accuracy down to the eye is less important.


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May 15, 2017 09:29 |  #32965

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i would vote for selling the RX1RII for the A9.

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i would vote for selling the RX1RII for the A9.

Yeah...so much $$ though lol. I'd have to get the a9 and the FE 35 1.4 to replace the rx1rII. So we're talking $6k :eek:

I was really hoping that the Sigma and the MC-11 worked out as that would have been a cheaper option, but I didn't find the AF good enough at all.


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May 15, 2017 09:34 |  #32966

Speaking of the 35 1.4, I stuck the a6300, B18 and B25 on eBay last night and that's the a6300 and B18 sold so will likely purchase the FE 35 shortly


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May 15, 2017 09:39 |  #32967

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Speaking of the 35 1.4, I stuck the a6300, B18 and B25 on eBay last night and that's the a6300 and B18 sold so will likely purchase the FE 35 shortly

nice, that was fast.

I went to photograph a lens I want to sell, and discovered a hair stuck on one of the internal lenses...and I have no idea how to move it...no idea how it got in there, its a prime lens!


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May 15, 2017 09:40 |  #32968

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Speaking of the 35 1.4, I stuck the a6300, B18 and B25 on eBay last night and that's the a6300 and B18 sold so will likely purchase the FE 35 shortly

Early congrats. I think you'll really like the lens...particular for your photos of Callum.


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May 15, 2017 09:42 |  #32969

I have been chasing FE35's on FM...


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May 15, 2017 09:54 |  #32970

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nice, that was fast.

I went to photograph a lens I want to sell, and discovered a hair stuck on one of the internal lenses...and I have no idea how to move it...no idea how it got in there, its a prime lens!

Man that sucks. I've put a dent in my loxia 21 and rubbed the paint off a bit of my CV15 so far but they are keeper lenses (as things stand at the moment!) so not bothering too much about it. My own fault in both instances. The batis lenses I'm selling are absolutely mint


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