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Aug 09, 2015 19:03 |  #3361

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R2 with Canon 85mm L II f1.2 @ f2. Phase detection works as fast as on a canon. The 85 L has never been a fast-focusing lens. The first image is AF with face detection. The second image is manual focus with magnification on her left eye. These are crops, of course--otherwise SOOC.
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this is a great picture thanks

highlights perfectly how putting the focus spot on the eye is critical at wide apertures - the eye is not sharp using face detection and yet is perfectly sharp using manual focus

since I specifically bought the A7R2 to use my 85L and lower shutter speeds, this may show that it isn't going to work with AF which for me may be a deal breaker


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Aug 09, 2015 19:06 as a reply to  @ post 17662662 |  #3362

Image the look on the B&W from my younger days on the old bearded face of today. I was 27 in that early shot and had just kicked some ass for tomfoolery and bullying the student who was shooting me.
There is something that they say comes out in me when I'm angry.

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Aug 09, 2015 19:08 |  #3363

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I was gone nearly all day, delivering daughter/grandgirls and one of their friends to a cruise ship. First shot is elder grandgirl in restaurant with mixed window light and tungsten.
Second is the whole group at dropoff, which I cropped. Otherwise, both shots are SOOC with the 24-240 Sony lens
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another good post showing how 1/60 on people that are even slightly moving often isn't fast enough whereas 1/160 created a tack sharp image and no matter how good high ISO cameras are becoming, the color space at ISO 100 is always going to be better than ISO 1600

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Aug 09, 2015 19:08 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #3364

Manual focus is quick and easy. An alternative is to do the same as I would have in the 5D3 and use a flexible AF focal point instead. I didn't try that on the R2.


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Aug 09, 2015 19:12 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #3365

Mixed light versus daylight. lashes on 1/60 shot are sharp if nothing else.


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Aug 09, 2015 19:13 |  #3366

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Manual focus is quick and easy. An alternative is to do the same as I would have in the 5D3 and use a flexible AF focal point instead. I didn't try that on the R2.

I just don't have time for MF in a wedding - I was really hoping for a way to use the 85L with IBIS from F1.2 to F2 for handheld portraits - is there not anyway to put the focus spot on an eyeball with the Sony with the 85L - do I need to sell it and get a 85 Batis to do this?

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Aug 09, 2015 19:14 |  #3367

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Mixed light versus daylight. lashes on 1/60 shot are sharp if nothing else.

I saw the lashes - very sharp indeed - was looking at her teeth - looks like she was turning her head


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Aug 09, 2015 21:03 |  #3368

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Image the look on the B&W from my younger days on the old bearded face of today. I was 27 in that early shot and had just kicked some ass for tomfoolery and bullying the student who was shooting me.
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Charlie I don't think you've aged a day.
The tilaka image in India is a great portrait.


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Aug 09, 2015 21:14 |  #3369

With the a7 "classic"

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Aug 09, 2015 21:15 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #3370

I believe so. I did not try it, my wife hates to stand there while I fiddle with the camera. Tomorrow I will find some subject and try out using the flexible AF spot to focus on the eye. You know at typical portrait distances the shallow depth of field at f1.2 makes focus very critical. But you can certainly get nice isolation at f2 or 2.2 and still have a nose or ears out of focus.


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Aug 09, 2015 21:19 |  #3371

shot of the sunset. Same camera with FD 24mm f/2.8

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Aug 09, 2015 21:22 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #3372

She just realized I was shooting her. This is the next image a split second later--it's the reaction I expect these days after photographing her for 18 years. It's the blonde 14-year-old who won't stay still long enough for a pleasant looking image.

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Aug 09, 2015 21:25 |  #3373

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I for sure wouldn't call the Sony glass "overpriced", it's more that they only have high end glass at the moment (except for the kit 28-70mm). I think Sony was smart to tackle the enthusiast glass first (though I'm still waiting for a nice 100-135mm prime) and then start putting out cheaper alternatives later (I imagine this is their plan).

I don't think anyone would argue that the Sony FE lenses aren't great lenses... they simply are.

Give it another couple of years, I bet we'll soon see their take on a cheap pancake prime, 70-300mm and some form of a standard lens (nifty fifty).

The biggest example I most often see when people call Sony glass expensive is their 70-200 f/2.8 for the A-Mount. Nikon's is $2,200, Canons is $2,100, Sony's is $2,900. But that's a single lens for an A-mount system that has probably 1 shooter for every 10,000 Canon EF shooters. The gripes against E -mount is even more silly. Youre talking about a lens lineup that's only about 2 years in existence compared to a 30 yr of Canon EF and who knows how long Nikon F.

I'm actually very satisfied about the lineup that Sony has put out in such a short time. Yes it was really weak for the first 6-12 months with just the 35/55 and the two 24-70, 28-70. But in a short time we got the Loxia, the Batis, the G lenses, the 35 1.4 and the 16-35. Yes there ar some missing (UWA prime, telephoto primes, super telephoto zooms), but the long end probably isn't a real money maker.

My biggest issue is their lack of QC on some lenses. Knock on wood my experience with the FE lenses is better than their APS-C where I went through 4 copies of the 50 and 3 of the 10-18, but I still see people have issues with FE lenses. I'm sure that Canon and Nikon users deal with that too, but just seems like more Sony users report on it.


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Aug 09, 2015 21:28 |  #3374

KayakPhotos wrote in post #17662840 (external link)
With the a7 "classic"

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shot of the sunset. Same camera with FD 24mm f/2.8

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Really nice Daniel! Love those clouds in the sunset capture.
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Aug 09, 2015 21:31 |  #3375

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Really nice Daniel! Love those clouds in the sunset capture.
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