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Dec 26, 2015 09:23 |  #10981

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Perspective is one thing but im not talking about correcting or warping it, with tilt you can change the plane of focus so that its not square to the sensor. If you have already taken a shot on a normal lens there is no software in the world that can then take a section that is out of focus and make it in focus. Huff has completely misunderstood/missed one of the main functions of a tilt shift lens I.e. tilt. I normally quite like his site but starting to realise he shows a lot of favour towards certain manufacturers and not others. He's turning into a bit of a ken rockwell type character

I did understand that and I have used that function myself. I was trying to expand on the subject in the more general sense of retaining more digital information. A little harder to do hand-held with a 12mm Voigtlander on the Sony a7S in dark interiors. This actually 8000 ISO.

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Dec 26, 2015 09:28 |  #10982

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I was using my Nissin i40 yesterday and have to say it is superb!. The size is matched perfectly to the sony body and it functions really well. It took me a bit at first to get used to when bouncing as I wasnt used to having a flash on camera. I always used my speedlight off camera previously as it was just to big on the body for my taste (even on my DSLR). Im now getting more used to where I should be directing the flash for the most even spill of light from the bounce.

It seemed to result in cold WB shots a lot of the time initially even when using the flash WB setting but its easily sorted in post. This was mainly evident in my own living room but I have white walls and ceilings so that may have been the issue. I used it elsewhere and the WB seemed correct.

The thing I LOVE about it is the on flash FEC dial when using ETTL mode. It makes on the fly alterations so easy.

Only negative I found (and still not sure 100% if its an issue) is that due to the nature of ETTL there is a VERY slight delay between the pre-flash and the main flash. For adults this is fine but for my son who doesnt look at the camera for more than a split second normally it could be an issue, and by that I mean when I am at the ready to take a shot, I manage to get his attention and he looks at the camera, I click the button and the pre-flash fires and by the time the main flash fires and the exposure is taken he has looked away a bit. Having said all that I was still getting shots when I felt this had happened so it may not be that big of a deal - further testing is required.

Now this is no fault of the flash and is more of a consequence of using ETTL with young kids. This would happen with any flash using ettl.

For the price I would recommend this flash to anyone with a Sony body.

Going to order one up next week. Local shop has it at a very good price but when I go to buy online it doesn't show up as a secure connection.


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Dec 26, 2015 09:51 |  #10983

Been wanting to sell off my 580's in favor of the Nissan as well, will do it in the new year.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:00 |  #10984

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Been wanting to sell off my 580's in favor of the Nissan as well, will do it in the new year.

Same here. Need something lightweight for macro work.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:06 |  #10985

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I did understand that and I have used that function myself. I was trying to expand on the subject in the more general sense of retaining more digital information. A little harder to do hand-held with a 12mm Voigtlander on the Sony a7S in dark interiors. This actually 8000 ISO.

Apologies, I misinterpreted


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Dec 26, 2015 10:07 |  #10986

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Going to order one up next week. Local shop has it at a very good price but when I go to buy online it doesn't show up as a secure connection.

Mine was from amazon. 140 delivered (cheapest I could find online)


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Dec 26, 2015 10:09 |  #10987

xpfloyd wrote in post #17832660 (external link)
Steve Huff - "and tilt shift..no one makes those anymore and while you can get them for Canon and Nikon, they are on the decline as software does all that a tilt shift lens does these days"

What?!?!? Software can now change the plane of focus in post so that its not square to the sensor?? What software is this - take my money now!

What a moronic statement by Steve. I'm not saying he is a moron, just an architectural photography experience-challenged spook-hunter (external link) saying a stupid thing. If you wish to compose an architectural subject with perspective corrected and you want to maximize your sensor's resolution and sharpness, you can't simply do it in software. You're throwing tons of pixels away and massively re-arranging the rest of them. I do a bunch of perspective correction in software (DXO Viewpoint is excellent), but getting it right in camera is always a better choice if possible. If I were doing arch-photography as a business I wouldn't do it without tilt-shifts.

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If you can use software to correct perspective, I suppose you could as easily use it to warp perspective. What Huff fails to understand is that a PC lens will give you a correction that leaves you with a full frame of digital information, rather than a diminished frame of cropped information.

Oops, all I did was say what had you already said. :oops: Sorry about that, I was talking half-way to myself as I have been contemplating the idea of selling my 11-24mm and 16-35mm to make a full retreat back to the TS-E 17 and TS-E 24 II combo. Probably won't, but thinking about it. My current project is going through my Lightroom catalog and clearing out all the junk and I'm looking at my old shots with the TS-Es and wishing for them again. If made that retreat, I'd be pining for the good ol' days of having the 11-24mm and 16-35mm. Can't have everything I guess. ;)


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Dec 26, 2015 10:32 |  #10988

I think I have just hit a new high in gas.
I found a used Zeiss 15mm ZM f2.8 and, hopefully have it locked in for purchase.
Since I have a Leica M 240 and the Sony bodies, I'll be able to use it across multiple platforms.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:35 |  #10989

If you can, I highly recommend the larger Nissin Di700A flash + Air 1 Commander. This will give you both on camera and off camera capabilities for just a little more than the i40 alone.

The Di700A goes for $299 at B&H (It was on sale for $279)

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And the i40 flash alone goes for $269 at B&H. The i40 does have a built in video light.

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Here's a quick shot showing my a7r + Batis 25 with the Air 1 Commander mounted first, and then one with the Di700A flash.

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Dec 26, 2015 10:35 |  #10990

xpfloyd wrote in post #17832803 (external link)
Mine was from amazon. 140 delivered (cheapest I could find online)

You're a star ;) I was linking through to Amazon from Camera Price Buster & it was saying out of stock at £148 which is the same price as my local shop!! A direct Amazon search brings up just 3 in stock from fotoSENSE :)

Sorry, make that two ;)


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Dec 26, 2015 10:38 |  #10991

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What a moronic statement by Steve. I'm not saying he is a moron, just an architectural photography experience-challenged spook-hunter (external link) saying a stupid thing. If you wish to compose an architectural subject with perspective corrected and you want to maximize your sensor's resolution and sharpness, you can't simply do it in software. You're throwing tons of pixels away and massively re-arranging the rest of them. I do a bunch of perspective correction in software (DXO Viewpoint is excellent), but getting it right in camera is always a better choice if possible. If I were doing arch-photography as a business I wouldn't do it without tilt-shifts.

Oops, all I did was say what had you already said. Sorry about that, I was talking half-way to myself as I have been contemplating the idea of selling my 11-24mm and 16-35mm to make a full retreat back to the TS-E 17 and TS-E 24 II combo. Probably won't, but thinking about it. My current project is going through my Lightroom catalog and clearing out all the junk and I'm looking at my old shots with the TS-Es and wishing for them again. Can't have everything. :)

I did have, once upon a time, a 35mm TS FD. Later I got a 24 TSE, but did a lend-lease with it to a buddy who does a lot of interior work. I have now long had a 90mm TSE and I find it to be a multi-purpose lens useful in all sorts of ways, from macro to panoramic stitching. It even gets a rotation in my travel kit because it is so light.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:43 |  #10992

navydoc wrote in post #17832845 (external link)
If you can, I highly recommend the larger Nissin Di700A flash + Air 1 Commander. This will give you both on camera and off camera capabilities for just a little more than the i40 alone.

The Di700A goes for $299 at B&H (It was on sale for $279)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_di_700a_flash_​air_1.html (external link)

And the i40 flash alone goes for $269 at B&H. The i40 does have a built in video light.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …&InitialSearch=​yes&sts=pi (external link)

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I wouldnt mind both, but would only get both if the i40 were commander compatible. I'de probably use OCF more than on camera.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:50 |  #10993

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I wouldnt mind both, but would only get both if the i40 were commander compatible. I'de probably use OCF more than on camera.

I was disappointed when I learned that the i40 was not compatible with the Air 1 Commander as well. Since I tend to shoot OFF CF the most often, I decided on the Di700. It has more light output as well and I like the fact that it has a battery pack style holder for the batteries and you can get additional battery holders to quickly swap out. Not that I've ever needed to do that with the limited number of exposures I typically make.


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Dec 26, 2015 10:53 |  #10994

I happened to catch the sun just behind this light globe when I visited the local RR Museum the other day. I liked the way the sun reflected off the power line so I left it in too (after having removed 3 others).

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Dec 26, 2015 11:04 |  #10995

advaitin wrote in post #17832841 (external link)
I think I have just hit a new high in gas.
I found a used Zeiss 15mm ZM f2.8 and, hopefully have it locked in for purchase.
Since I have a Leica M 240 and the Sony bodies, I'll be able to use it across multiple platforms.

Is this the ranhefinder version? ZM is M mount right? Ive been lusting for this lens so i hope you get it and can tell us how it performs on the A7R2!


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