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Jun 04, 2015 00:00 |  #1

Ive never really followed smartphone camera developments, but I stumbled upon an LG G4 commercial highlighting a f1.8 aperture lens, and the ability to adjust shutter speeds. I did some research into it and in addition to "laser AF" (whatever that means), apparently you can control ISO as well, and even extract RAW files!

Haven't seen any smart device with these native capabilities, except maybe a Samsung Galaxy camera phone which is essentially a P&S camera first and a smartphone second. The G4 is appealing to me in that it's a smartphone first and a P&S with full manual setting second. This I hope can be a practical camera that you can take with you anywhere and be able to use on a whim, post to websites or social media immediately without any silly wifi file transfer process, all while minimizing your load and looking as discrete as possible.

What are your thoughts? Are these just over hyped gimmick features for a smartphone, or are camera phones that much closer to the standalone camera?

Here's a comparison vid to a 5D2. Not a good comparison, I think because manual mode wasn't used to show its full capabilities, but a nice watch nonetheless.
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Jun 04, 2015 01:08 |  #2

It apparently also has AEL function, live histogram, manual focus mode, and shutter speed range of 30 sec to 1/6000 second. Pretty impressive.

Another review, showing manual settings towards the end.
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Jun 04, 2015 01:14 |  #3

IMHO the picture quality is not impressive at all >> http://www.gsmarena.co​m …Phone2=6849&idP​hone3=6294 (external link)


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Jun 04, 2015 01:26 as a reply to  @ Reservoir Dog's post |  #4

I'm not able to see the comparison pics in your link as I'm viewing on my iPhone 5s. Is it bad IQ compared to a dedicated camera? Or bad compared to another smartphone? Bc it's not released yet, I haven't seen enough pics from it yet to make a judgement call.


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Jun 06, 2015 20:01 as a reply to  @ p00kienrayray's post |  #5

It is not impressive for a phone, and very far from a DSLR quality IMO


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Jun 06, 2015 20:18 |  #6

I've been reading reviews. Still havent seen much shots from it yet. Seems like reviewers are choosing the Galaxy S6 camera over the G4, but both over the iPhone 6/6 plus.

However I do believe that IQ is only a factor of what makes a good camera. The fact that you have access to RAW files and full manual settings allow you to do certain things that you can't with other smartphone cameras.

IQ vs a dslr is expected with a very small sensor fitted into a phone.


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Jun 06, 2015 22:10 |  #7

iPhone was never "good" for pictures, i do not know now with the 6/6+, but i recall when i bought the 4S i was disappointed about that and preferred by far the 5 MPx of the Nokia N95

Having access to all the setting and the RAW file on the G4, yes for sure it's a big +, but having a tiny sensor (i suppose it's a very tiny one) will put everything in the DoF whatever you want to try, so it depend about your needs ;)


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Jun 07, 2015 00:00 |  #8

Honestly i did not know the G4 was out , but the G3 is a pretty darn nice camera phone!
I've got an "old' Note 2 that I love, but my friends G3 is pretty sweet!
IS and all :)


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Jun 07, 2015 01:03 |  #9

Considering there are great photographers out there who are devoted to "iPhotography" I assume the G4 would be a more engaging, if not better, device. This is what makes it appealing to me.

DoF would be limited, yes, it is a phone camera after all. Low light handling and DR is limited as well, but I wonder how well that can be cleaned up in post. I've seen nice work with iPhone images so I imagine the G4 RAW files has more potential.

Unfortunately I prefer the iOS platform over android, so I probably won't give the G4 a try. But I like the step that LG and other manufacturers are taking in advancing phone cameras. Maybe in 10 years we'll have a smartphone with a FF camera sensor :-P


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Jun 07, 2015 23:20 |  #10

I was able to stop by my local AT&T store to play with it. Apparently, it's not full manual, since aperture is fixed at f/1.8. Not sure how I feel about that since the 1/2 inch sensor probably wouldn't make much difference if lens was stopped down. The shutter speed unfortunately is only available in 1 stop increments. AF was reasonably fast.

The device itself is rather uncomfortable to hold and play with settings for me, but I suppose this is because I'm used to the smaller iPhone 5S. But on the other hand, the Galaxy S6 Edge feels much better to hold, and it is comparable in size to the G4. The S6 Edge photos also looked cleaner and more contrasty, but this was only judging off the handset display, which is OLED vs the G4's LCD.


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Jun 08, 2015 14:47 as a reply to  @ p00kienrayray's post |  #11

I don't know about the G4, but the G2 camera is pretty good, at least for an amateur like myself.

On a trip to LA last year, we used the G2 camera exclusively on our tourist-adventure to various locations. It did it's job very well. Easy to use and manipulate and the pictures were crisp and sharp enough to allow some significant work afterward, like cloning out of background stuff in PS.

Granted, it is the G2, not the newer version, but overall I hate this F'n phone. I have been pleased with the camera, and the phone itself is ok, that's about it. I also use GPS a lot on the phone... and by a lot, I mean A - LOT! The GPS on this thing is terrible. Nearly unusable. Hopefully that is something they have addressed in the newer versions. I have also grown tired of the buttons on the back of the phone instead of on the side. In your hand, they are fine. You adjust to the location easily. The problem comes when you have the phone in something... like a dashboard mount or in an arm sleeve when working out. The buttons get completely blocked and thus unusable. They have a workaround which isn't terribly bad, their "knock-on" technology, where you can double tap the screen to activate things works OK. That has it's drawbacks though, and doesn't help at all when the phone is in a workout sleeve. When the phone is in your pocket, bumps from your hand or against your leg can activate the screen, and without a screen lock (pattern, code), can bring up the main screen and register clicks and do stuff or place calls. At this point, just prefer to have side switches.


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Jun 08, 2015 20:24 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17587026 (external link)
Honestly i did not know the G4 was out , but the G3 is a pretty darn nice camera phone!
I've got an "old' Note 2 that I love, but my friends G3 is pretty sweet!
IS and all :)

I love my G3. I'm not much into cell phone photography, but it does fine in a pinch if I don't have my DSLR with me.

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Jun 12, 2015 18:22 |  #13

I've seen quality shots from lots of phones. The G4 seems to be really good!




  
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Jun 12, 2015 20:56 |  #14

2 test snaps using the G4 that a friend was so kind to let me use. These were RAW files with tweaks to highlights, shadows, contrast, and NR.

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Jun 12, 2015 21:00 |  #15

There's an Android app that allows you to edit RAW files called photomate r2. I have it on my tablet and it's pretty powerful. Would make for a killer hardware/software combo on the G4...


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