5DS and 5DSR PHOTO THREAD

I'm afraid I agree with Davids previous comments.. I was expecting to see shoots showing the detail capturing capabilities of this camera but instead the last few posts have been of soft portraits, rivers lacking sharpness and detail and a bunch of trees......I really don't see the point of spending that sort of money on a camera if they are the sort of shots you are going to turn out...
Don't get me wrong, this thread started out with some nicely detailed shots from a more than capable camera..

don1163 wrote in post #17629254
I'm afraid I agree with Davids previous comments.. I was expecting to see shoots showing the detail capturing capabilities of this camera but instead the last few posts have been of soft portraits, rivers lacking sharpness and detail and a bunch of trees......I really don't see the point of spending that sort of money on a camera if they are the sort of shots you are going to turn out...
Don't get me wrong, this thread started out with some nicely detailed shots from a more than capable camera..

I wasn't disagreeing with David's comments, nor am I offended by your remarks about my river shot lacking sharpness and so on. Like everyone else here, I was expecting to see more landscape or portraits as well. I simply was asking about what type pictures was he expecting to see, nothing more and nothing less.

David Arbogast wrote in post #17628895
I am surprised by the direction the thread is going. Not the sort of images I imagined that people would be taking with a 50.6 MP sensor.

David Arbogast wrote in post #17628984
I thought that we'd be seeing a lot of landscapes, cityscapes, architecture, etc. The types of high-detail images that can benefit from 50.6 MP. Not that there is anything wrong with photographing a few leaves and unsharp portraits with a 5DS R.

don1163 wrote in post #17629254
I'm afraid I agree with Davids previous comments.. I was expecting to see shoots showing the detail capturing capabilities of this camera but instead the last few posts have been of soft portraits, rivers lacking sharpness and detail and a bunch of trees......I really don't see the point of spending that sort of money on a camera if they are the sort of shots you are going to turn out ...
Don't get me wrong, this thread started out with some nicely detailed shots from a more than capable camera..

You have forgotten the most important guys ...
There is 1000 time more enthusiast-amateur or gear-geek than pro.
This camera is not "dedicated to" a specific type of photography for most people, it is first a pleasure to have it, a pleasure to take picture about all and nothing, you know ... just the pleasure to buy a new toy and enjoying it, and don't tell me you never did something similar like buying a powerful car or the last playstation for example

My only complain is that this thread is taking a long time to load...... ....must be the high-ish resolution.

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17629692
You have forgotten the most important guys ...
There is 1000 time more enthusiast-amateur or gear-geek than pro.
This camera is not "dedicated to" a specific type of photography for most people, it is first a pleasure to have it, a pleasure to take picture about all and nothing, you know ... just the pleasure to buy a new toy and enjoying it, and don't tell me you never did something similar like buying a powerful car or the last playstation for example

Not saying it's not nice to own a 5ds, but I don't see the point of upgrading from say a 5d3 to a 5ds if the pictures you are posting actually look worse...surely that is not the point in buying a better camera..

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17629692
You have forgotten the most important guys ...
There is 1000 time more enthusiast-amateur or gear-geek than pro.
This camera is not "dedicated to" a specific type of photography for most people, it is first a pleasure to have it, a pleasure to take picture about all and nothing, you know ... just the pleasure to buy a new toy and enjoying it, and don't tell me you never did something similar like buying a powerful car or the last playstation for example

Absolutely - it's a camera and can be used for any sort of shot that typical cameras can take.

don1163 wrote in post #17629834
Not saying it's not nice to own a 5ds, but I don't see the point of upgrading from say a 5d3 to a 5ds if the pictures you are posting actually look worse...surely that is not the point in buying a better camera..

I am not disagreeing with you, but do want to make one comment:

The 5DS R is essentially a 5D III with 50.6 MP and slightly better dynamic range (11.7 EVs vs 12.4 EVs). If you are expecting to see better photos in this thread than in, say, the 5D III thread, then you are going to be disappointed. Since the point of the 5DS R is the 50.6 MP resolution and since the POTN maximum allowable resolution is only 1.4 MP, it is going to be extremely difficult to detect "better" in a POTN thread no matter who is using the cameras.

David Arbogast wrote in post #17629915
I am not disagreeing with you, but do want to make one comment:

The 5DS R is essentially a 5D III with 50.6 MP and slightly better dynamic range (11.7 EVs vs 12.4 EVs). If you are expecting to see better photos in this thread than in, say, the 5D III thread, then you are going to be disappointed. Since the point of the 5DS R is the 50.6 MP resolution and since the POTN maximum allowable resolution is only 1.4 MP, it is going to be extremely difficult to detect "better" in a POTN thread no matter who is using the cameras.

Really, the only thing you can do to fully convey the difference is to take the same shot with the 5D3 and 5Ds(r), and show a 100% crop from the 5Ds right next to a 150% crop from the 5D3. This forum is not a place to see the full difference with full images! The difference will show up better on a 4k monitor, if you want to look at the full images, and even better in a very large print.

Shooting at the highest resolution you can get your hands on future-proofs your images against hi-res displays which will make low-res images look lacking in resolution.

don1163 wrote in post #17628797
What teleconverter are you using?? I would have expected much better results from that camera and lens combination..
Please don't take offence but that first shot especially, looks like something taken with an entry level crop sensor camera..
Can you post some without the teleconverter being used?

don1163, I used Canon EF 2x III Extender.

Also, image was cropped.

don1163 wrote in post #17629834
Not saying it's not nice to own a 5ds, but I don't see the point of upgrading from say a 5d3 to a 5ds if the pictures you are posting actually look worse...surely that is not the point in buying a better camera..

Chill...people buy camera for all sort of reasons...didn't like it, then just ignore it, or just clicked x button on the browser...hehe

vbudihardjo wrote in post #17629968
Chill...people buy camera for all sort of reasons...didn't like it, then just ignore it, or just clicked x button on the browser...hehe

Fair enough people buy cameras for different reasons, but what I am trying to point out is that if you look at the photos in Presha's gallery, the photos taken with 5d3 are much better than those taken with the 5ds......fact....

I find that with any new sample thread it usually takes a while for excellent shots to appear, usually you see a lot of getting used to the new camera or lens shots and experimenting such as taking pictures of a brick wall . as for me i have had my 5dsr for about a month and due to uncontrolled circumstance have not been able to capture any memorable shots yet. i even rented the Zeiss 85 Otus for the 4th weekend but due to flooding and other issues did not get to utilize it the way i was planning.

i believe as more people buy the cameras and as opportunities arise you will see some truly awesome shots as i know the camera is capable of.

bob

I really like the discussion that's taken place and there were some good points made about the camera and its ability to produce great images. Since getting this camera about a month ago, This was only my 2nd outting with it. So it definitely takes a little getting use to, no matter how close in specs (other than pixels), size and weight compared to the 5d3. So in a since, the shots I posted recently is just me putting the camera thru its paces. I've got a lot more time off coming up, so I'll continue to fine tune my workflow with this camera and I'm looking forward to posting some awesome shots.

One thing I do noticed about others that have posted 5dsr pictures is that none of them seem as sharp to me. I'm thinking it's just my monitors not being able to resolve high res as well as I would like. So time to splurge on a couple of 4k/5k monitors and a new Mac Pro!

Presha wrote in post #17630231
I really like the discussion that's taken place and there were some good points made about the camera and its ability to produce great images. Since getting this camera about a month ago, This was only my 2nd outting with it. So it definitely takes a little getting use to, no matter how close in specs (other than pixels), size and weight compared to the 5d3. So in a since, the shots I posted recently is just me putting the camera thru its paces. I've got a lot more time off coming up, so I'll continue to fine tune my workflow with this camera and I'm looking forward to posting some awesome shots.

One thing I do noticed about others that have posted 5dsr pictures is that none of them seem as sharp to me. I'm thinking it's just my monitors not being able to resolve high res as well as I would like. So time to splurge on a couple of 4k/5k monitors and a new Mac Pro!

Hehe...good idea on a new computer!

One thought that occurred to me is that 5DS R users may need to adjust their downsampling/web-sharpening workflow.