Sound Editing

Need some help on how to edit the dialogue track of this video clip. I am not sure what the buzzing some is coming from. I think its AGC. I using Adobe audition to edit. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

https://youtu.be/8pwlE​5xakxs

To me this sounds like the microphone was on the camera; just about the last place you'd want it. This isn't AGC noise, I think - just room noise. Maybe AGC makes it worse. That they're so quiet makes it worse.

Microphones, even "directional" microphones *must* be close to the source, especially so in noisy or reverberant environments. It isn't like a zoom lens where you can stand back and zoom in to compose just the shot you want, excluding everything else. "Directional" means that a mic rejects sound coming from the sides... but there's a lot of bad sound in front of mics in most interiors. I could go on, I'll spare you... but do ask any questions.

You have what you have. It's pretty poor. Just about as much noise as dialog. In my experience you can expect about a 15% improvement, plus or minus, from the tools. Which is totally worth it, and worth spending time on, but you're not going to pull great sound out of this recording.

To improve it, your primary tools are Noise Reduction/NR, Equalization/EQ, turning down the volume during the extended pauses, and masking noise with music. It seems like you've already done some EQ?

See this video on the CC Noise Reduction filter in Audition:
http://tv.adobe.com …dition-cc-removing-noise/

An NR filter can be like magic... some improvement is possible, but if you're too aggressive with it voices get burbly, like they're underwater. It's better to take a few small bites than one big bite.

Turning down volume during pauses can be done by highlighting the pause and using the floating volume control in the Waveform interface, or drawing volume envelopes in the Multitrack interface.

EQ in the effects rack in WF or Multitrack. You're turning down low frequencies, below, say, 100 or maybe 160Hz. You can also peak the vocal freqs up a bit, somewhere around 800-2000Hz, but you need to sweep through these frequencies to find what's right. I usually use the Parametric EQ filter for this.

Some improvement is possible. Many people covering weddings are using small recorders with lavs on the groom and later syncing. That would be hard here since they're back-to-back, you'd need one on the bride as well, which is intrusive and many brides don't want anything that affects the cut or look of the dress.

Weddings are one of the most challenging environments to get good sound recording. Officiants who don't want to see you, reverberant churches, bad sound systems (if any), stressed brides... just like still photogs experience, only worse for sound because our best techniques are more intrusive.

SailingAway wrote in post #17611312
To me this sounds like the microphone was on the camera; just about the last place you'd want it. This isn't AGC noise, I think - just room noise. Maybe AGC makes it worse. That they're so quiet makes it worse.

Microphones, even "directional" microphones *must* be close to the source, especially so in noisy or reverberant environments. It isn't like a zoom lens where you can stand back and zoom in to compose just the shot you want, excluding everything else. "Directional" means that a mic rejects sound coming from the sides... but there's a lot of bad sound in front of mics in most interiors. I could go on, I'll spare you... but do ask any questions.

You have what you have. It's pretty poor. Just about as much noise as dialog. In my experience you can expect about a 15% improvement, plus or minus, from the tools. Which is totally worth it, and worth spending time on, but you're not going to pull great sound out of this recording.

To improve it, your primary tools are Noise Reduction/NR, Equalization/EQ, turning down the volume during the extended pauses, and masking noise with music. It seems like you've already done some EQ?

See this video on the CC Noise Reduction filter in Audition:
http://tv.adobe.com …dition-cc-removing-noise/

An NR filter can be like magic... some improvement is possible, but if you're too aggressive with it voices get burbly, like they're underwater. It's better to take a few small bites than one big bite.

Turning down volume during pauses can be done by highlighting the pause and using the floating volume control in the Waveform interface, or drawing volume envelopes in the Multitrack interface.

EQ in the effects rack in WF or Multitrack. You're turning down low frequencies, below, say, 100 or maybe 160Hz. You can also peak the vocal freqs up a bit, somewhere around 800-2000Hz, but you need to sweep through these frequencies to find what's right. I usually use the Parametric EQ filter for this.

Some improvement is possible. Many people covering weddings are using small recorders with lavs on the groom and later syncing. That would be hard here since they're back-to-back, you'd need one on the bride as well, which is intrusive and many brides don't want anything that affects the cut or look of the dress.

Weddings are one of the most challenging environments to get good sound recording. Officiants who don't want to see you, reverberant churches, bad sound systems (if any), stressed brides... just like still photogs experience, only worse for sound because our best techniques are more intrusive.

Thank you for the reply. Very informational.