Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
Thread started 05 Jul 2015 (Sunday) 13:48
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Trying to put some life in the Laptop ... Is this possible. Switching back the old HHd?

 
Submariner
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 13:48 |  #1

As I have 3 weeks to wait for the new workstation to arrive.

I have bought a samsung 850 evo for the Laptop. Hopefully that resolves the failure to read the data on the blu ray / dvd writer. ( well reloading the software was sony's only solution as it passed hardware diagnostics. )

But, as I am worried - I thought I would try the following plan:-D:-

1. Backup the existing HHD. And then remove it.
2. Install the new SSD, boot to post
3. Change the Bios to handle AHCI
4. Shrink the disk?
5. Shutdown and reboot from the blu ray/ dvd writer , with the recovery CDs I made when I got it new.
6. hopefully it works.

If I have a big problem like the DVD writer wont work.
Can I simply

A)
1. Download win 7 Home Premium and use the key on the back of the laptop?

Or if not posssible

B) reinstall the old HDD Drive, restart it and then restore the OS from the recovery partition, and sort the dvd writer out.
I am assumming if I changed the bios to support SSDs, then I would have to change that back before running the restore from the partition, or will that restore reset the Bios as well?

Any help appreciated.


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FerozeK
Senior Member
Avatar
253 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Apr 2012
Location: JHB, South Africa
     
Jul 05, 2015 13:58 |  #2

I dont know what the issue is with your blu ray but replacing the hard drive sounds like a odd solution

I assume the data you saving is photos is jpg or raw

Install the ssd

Install a fresh copy of windows, update the drivers from the site to the latest version, your recovery cd will take it back to the original factory installtion and might be quite old

do all the windows updates while its still available (all my PC's are currently auto updating to windows 10 so I doubt it will be available much longer)

Put the old hdd in a external case and copy the data back over to the ssd




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nogo
POTN record for # of posts during "Permanent Ban"
9,193 posts
Gallery: 17 photos
Likes: 685
Joined Dec 2013
Location: All Along the Natchez Trace (Clinton, MS)
     
Jul 05, 2015 14:01 |  #3

If it is possible with your computer, what I would do is copy all the CD's to a flash drive. Then pull out the DVD/CD drive and put your D: drive there.

If it can be done, that seems to be the best temporary solution.


Philip

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
geoffpowell
Member
110 posts
Likes: 97
Joined Jun 2008
     
Jul 05, 2015 14:05 |  #4

I'd buy a USB case for your SSD (approx £15) then download Clonezilla. This is a bootable Linux utility that will clone your existing disk to your SSD. Copy it to a 2GB or 4GB USB drive. Set the BIOS to boot from the USB containing Clonezilla and clone your old disk to the SSD. Swap the SSD for your internal HDD and boot into your exisiting copy of Windows on your SSD. Original HDD remains intact so it's a backup. Don't need the DVD drive to do any of this.

Regards

Geoff




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tim
Light Bringer
Avatar
51,010 posts
Likes: 375
Joined Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
     
Jul 05, 2015 14:24 |  #5

Don't partition SSDs. Not sure that's what you mean, post is ambiguous. Take Macrium Reflect image every few months so you can roll back to a previous state if your OS goes wrong - you can put the image onto a new disk.


Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 18:23 |  #6

FerozeK wrote in post #17621537 (external link)
I dont know what the issue is with your blu ray but replacing the hard drive sounds like a odd solution

I assume the data you saving is photos is jpg or raw

Install the ssd

Install a fresh copy of windows, update the drivers from the site to the latest version, your recovery cd will take it back to the original factory installtion and might be quite old

do all the windows updates while its still available (all my PC's are currently auto updating to windows 10 so I doubt it will be available much longer)

Put the old hdd in a external case and copy the data back over to the ssd

Thanks for the reply
Sorry to clarify. Sony support said I had to restore the O/S from the recovery discs, and that would sort out the DVD blu Ray writer. .? As that sounds odd to me - even if it worked enough to reload the O/S, I'd be worried the load from the dvd might be corrupt.
My plan at least leaves the old Hdd intact, at least Outlook works and Photoshop does too - but slowly.

The new SSD is mainly to speed up the Laptop ( nothing to do with the current problem.) but it means if I resotore the OS to this new drive - then at least the old one is intact and hopefully if all fails I can revert back to it.

Similarly if the dvd wont run, I will just buy a new dvd writer, or try and borrow a usb dvd writer. And try again. Hopefully Sony will honour the 4 yr support plan. So the replacement dvd drive should be free.

Yes its just a few docs 170 gigs of jpegs and raw pics.


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 18:25 |  #7

Nogo wrote in post #17621540 (external link)
If it is possible with your computer, what I would do is copy all the CD's to a flash drive. Then pull out the DVD/CD drive and put your D: drive there.

If it can be done, that seems to be the best temporary solution.

Thats my problem at the moment the dvd wont read anything, maybe one in 20 times it will.
So I cant copy the 4 cds with the OS restore !
But appreciate your help.


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 18:32 |  #8

geoffpowell wrote in post #17621544 (external link)
I'd buy a USB case for your SSD (approx £15) then download Clonezilla. This is a bootable Linux utility that will clone your existing disk to your SSD. Copy it to a 2GB or 4GB USB drive. Set the BIOS to boot from the USB containing Clonezilla and clone your old disk to the SSD. Swap the SSD for your internal HDD and boot into your exisiting copy of Windows on your SSD. Original HDD remains intact so it's a backup. Don't need the DVD drive to do any of this.

Regards

Geoff

I have ordered a 2.5 USB 3.0 case. So I can later use the old 500 gb disc in that.
Appreciate the thought but as they say my OS is corrupt - I neeed a fresh clean install.
So cloning the disc is actually not a solution for me.
I could put the ssd in the new case, as it also fits, and use viao care, to create a complete restore on the ssd - and then swap the hd with the ssd. .... But then I will still have a corrupt os on the ssd.


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
Post edited over 8 years ago by Submariner.
     
Jul 05, 2015 18:38 |  #9

tim wrote in post #17621556 (external link)
Don't partition SSDs. Not sure that's what you mean, post is ambiguous. Take Macrium Reflect image every few months so you can roll back to a previous state if your OS goes wrong - you can put the image onto a new disk.

Thanks I had heard there is no point formatting the ssd.
But some say I should partition and then 'shrink' the disc. I am really not sure what they mean by that. As I have never done that before on a single disc laptop.
I think they mean its the ms disc management utility used to shrink a disc to make room for a new partition. But as you say not to partitionan ssd. Then I guess this is not needed.

Viao care also creates restore points, but only goes back 6 restores, and due tomthe dvdv issue,mwith lots of tries even the earliest copy is now corrupt. It automatically flushes out the first restore point if there is not enough space. And sadly one cant manually selectively delete later restore points to preserve the last known working one. I should have copied it to an external drive!


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-dave-m-
Senior Member
493 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 49
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
     
Jul 05, 2015 18:48 |  #10

You can download Win 7 and use the key from the sticker on your laptop. Just be sure to download the correct version to match the key. You may be prompted to contact Microsoft's Automated Activation system to get a keycode for final activation. It's easy to do.


5D MkII Gripped | 7D MkII Gripped | 200 f/2.8L | 17-40 f/4L | Σ 24-105 OS f/4 Art | Σ 50 f/1.4 Art | Σ 150-600 OS f/5-6.3 C | 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FerozeK
Senior Member
Avatar
253 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Apr 2012
Location: JHB, South Africa
     
Jul 05, 2015 19:09 |  #11

This might help : http://www.intowindows​.com …tailed-100-working-guide/ (external link)

Its instructions on how to install windows from a flash drive, no dvd required as you can download the windows ISO from the MS Store




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-dave-m-
Senior Member
493 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 49
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post edited over 8 years ago by -dave-m-.
     
Jul 05, 2015 19:21 |  #12

Having read through all your posts in this thread here is what I would personally do:

1) Download the proper Windows 7 ISO version from Microsoft Recovery. It requires you to enter your Keycode.
2) Download Rufus Bootable USB Creator. Use Google to find it.
3) Create a bootable Windows 7 USB Installation Drive using Rufus. Download drivers for you Wireless or Ethernet and store them on the USB drive.
4) Shutdown the laptop, remove the old HDD and install the new SSD.
5) Power up the laptop and enter the BIOS. Switch to AHCI and then choose to boot from the USB Drive.
6) Install Windows 7, then all the updates and drivers etc. You may need to install the Wireless/Ethernet driver from the USB if Windows 7 didn't have a compatible driver.
7) Install all your Software.
8) Mount the old HDD in the external case and recover any files you need, then do what ever you want to the old drive.


5D MkII Gripped | 7D MkII Gripped | 200 f/2.8L | 17-40 f/4L | Σ 24-105 OS f/4 Art | Σ 50 f/1.4 Art | Σ 150-600 OS f/5-6.3 C | 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 19:36 |  #13

-dave-m- wrote in post #17621824 (external link)
You can download Win 7 and use the key from the sticker on your laptop. Just be sure to download the correct version to match the key. You may be prompted to contact Microsoft's Automated Activation system to get a keycode for final activation. It's easy to do.

Thanks seems perfect clean windows no Mcafee etc! :)


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 19:36 |  #14

FerozeK wrote in post #17621852 (external link)
This might help : http://www.intowindows​.com …tailed-100-working-guide/ (external link)

Its instructions on how to install windows from a flash drive, no dvd required as you can download the windows ISO from the MS Store

Thanks very useful


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Submariner
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,028 posts
Likes: 47
Joined May 2012
Location: London
     
Jul 05, 2015 19:39 |  #15

-dave-m- wrote in post #17621871 (external link)
Having read through all your posts in this thread here is what I would personally do:

1) Download the proper Windows 7 ISO version from Microsoft Recovery. It requires you to enter your Keycode.
2) Download Rufus Bootable USB Creator. Use Google to find it.
3) Create a bootable Windows 7 USB Installation Drive using Rufus. Download drivers for you Wireless or Ethernet and store them on the USB drive.
4) Shutdown the laptop, remove the old HDD and install the new SSD.
5) Power up the laptop and enter the BIOS. Switch to AHCI and then choose to boot from the USB Drive.
6) Install Windows 7, then all the updates and drivers etc. You may need to install the Wireless/Ethernet driver from the USB if Windows 7 didn't have a compatible driver.
7) Install all your Software.
8) Mount the old HDD in the external case and recover any files you need, then do what ever you want to the old drive.

Thanks seems like a perfect plan.
I assume when you say download Windows you mean save onto the USB.?
I have a 32 GB one lying around. :)


Canon EOS 5DS R, Canon EF 70-200 F2.8 L Mk II IS USM, Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 L IS USM, EF 40mm F2.8 STM , RC6 Remote. Canon STE-3 Radio Flash Controller, Canon 600 EX RT x4 , YN 560 MkII x2 ; Bowens GM500PRO x4 , Bowens Remote Control. Bowens Pulsar TX, RX Radio Transmitter and Reciever Cards. Bowens Constant 530 Streamlights 600w x 4 Sold EOS 5D Mk III, 7D, EF 50mm F1.8, 430 EX Mk II, Bowens GM500Rs x4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,626 views & 0 likes for this thread, 7 members have posted to it and it is followed by 3 members.
Trying to put some life in the Laptop ... Is this possible. Switching back the old HHd?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Computers 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1293 guests, 136 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.