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May 01, 2021 21:59 |  #1456

Thank you, just to be totally clear: I own the 200 F2, not the Eye of Sauron, so for me in case it would be the easier-to-find 52mm drop-in filter.
I'm not questioning the CPL usefulness if you shoot also landscapes with the lens, but considering that I'm shooting 99% of the time people, I was actually wondering if it would have been worth anyway the expense (which I tend to think no).




  
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May 02, 2021 13:58 as a reply to  @ Tirpitz's post |  #1457

^ So you would like to know if a CPL would work for portraiture work? Just want to make sure that's what you're asking, Tirpitz...

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May 02, 2021 14:23 |  #1458

The 48mm filters show up on eBay every so often

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May 02, 2021 15:56 as a reply to  @ post 19122072 |  #1459

I'm going to have to look at this lens!

Terrific images collectively!




  
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May 02, 2021 20:40 |  #1460

airbutchie wrote in post #19230621 (external link)
^ So you would like to know if a CPL would work for portraiture work? Just want to make sure that's what you're asking, Tirpitz...

:)

Sort of, I'm trying to understand if they could be of any added value for that kind of photography or not, probably for most of the cases not so much, since most likely any blue sky or water in the background will be out of focus :-)




  
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May 02, 2021 22:14 |  #1461

So,. it seems I at some point while owning this lens twice, I managed to double up on the CPL, and also still have the rare bird, the drop in gelatin filter holder.

So if I recall that means there were three drop in options.
- The rotatable CPL, "PL-C".

- The older gelatin holder, which also has a clear piece of glass. This came with the earliest version before the screw in version. "48mm Drop-in Holder III for Gelatin"
Strangely, Canon USA has a page for this, it's never been in stock, and the image is incorrect showing an IS gen 52mm holder of some sorthttps://shop.usa.canon​.com …-gelatin-filter-holder-ii (external link)
BH has the correct image;
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …n_Filter_Holder​_48mm.html (external link)

- The newer versions of the lens came with the more common screw in type also with a clear screw-in filter. (don't knwo the part number)

Canon told us that the clear glass was "part of the optical formula" and necessary, but I do recall extensive testing with an without and don't recall discerning a difference.

Anyway, to anyone interested, I do have a CPL and this clear filter. If anyone is shooting without ANY drop in, you probably want the gelatin holder to use empty with just the glass.


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May 03, 2021 17:22 |  #1462

Yeah, that wording about the clear glass "being part of the optical formula" I've always find quite amusing to tell the truth, especially when you are supposed to be able to exchange it for a different piece of other glass, being it a CPL or a gelatin :lol:

Guess is more to prevent any dirt to enter the lens from the rear or something, anyway, I'm keeping it in place  :p




  
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May 04, 2021 09:35 as a reply to  @ Tirpitz's post |  #1463

I took mine out long ago


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May 12, 2021 14:39 |  #1464

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Jul 25, 2021 07:18 |  #1468

Finally gave in and snatched one myself  :p

I'm already in love, now have to decide if to keep it or its more modern F2 sibling.. Decisions decisions.. :-D




  
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Jul 29, 2021 21:48 |  #1469

At the end decided to keep the Holy Grail, even though the rendering is really neck and neck with the newer version, the bokeh is just that tad softer that the main subject stands out that bit more to render the overall image preferable to my eyes. On short to medium distance probably the F2 is just a bit sharper, especially towards midframe and corners, but to my surprise at infinity the Holy Grail is quite a bit sharper, even wide open. Guess it is possible that the newer version was more optimized for the shorter distances, if I recall correctly I've read a comparison review that was hinting at something like that. I know my F2 is in good order as it was checked for focus accuracy by Canon some months ago.

Anyway, the F1.8 it's really an amazing and unique proposition still today, really a testament of what Canon put into it at the time..8-)




  
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