Considering the D750 but...

Hi,

I'm thinking this is a great place to ask as generally we're a Canon forum so will hopefully get a pretty unbiased view in this subforum, also I'm hoping that some of your guys have swapped so can give an insight into the problems that may blind-side me.

I have owned a fair few Canon's in the past, most recently the 5D3 which I sold to reduce weight as I found I wasn't taking out as I'd ache at the end of the day and the 60D which I just don't use as I've basically switched to the Olympus E-M1 and some pretty stellar glass, but and theres always a but... I really miss the full frame pop.

I've asked on another forum and a few ideas popped up, the 6D (as I still have some Canon glass - 50mm 1.8, 135, 100m macro and 400mm that I just couldn't part with), the D610 or D800, 5DS - but after all the D750 seemed to come up on top.

I had considered the 5D3 again, but I sold that for a reason, the same reason I don't think I'd want some of the others - size and weight, sadly I know if I want full frame and all it offers then I'm stuck with size and weight, but if I can reduce the impact that would be great.

To give an idea of what I take you could check my flickr, or to make it easy its generally family stuff and a bit of wildlife, but I am very keen on narrow depth of field in motion, such as birds in flight and my kids rushing about on bikes or running - what it doesn't show is the keeper rate which despite the E-M1 being capable since the v3 firmware there are so few images I want to keep.

Worth noting is that I'm not a rich man and would fund a system switch with my Canon lenses, which don't get used anyway - unless I went 6D... Arrrgh!

I did have a look using a size compare site some options - here - I popped the 135L on the Canon as its my favourite lens as I love the look, but I think I could live with the 85mm 1.8G too.

Anyway I hope thats it covered, if not please ask away.

I shoot the Nikon D610 and have handled the D750, though not in the shooting situations you mentioned above.

The D610 is fantastic. I do portraits, family shoots and some events. I also do some wildlife, and the D610 handles it all just fine. I've seen some posts in other sites that talk about how the D750 will focus in low light down to-EV3, and the D610 will "only" go to -EV2, so some how the latter is lacking if doesn't "suck" completely. Not even sure what all that means, but I'll tell you that my 610 will darned near focus in the dark. That's good enough for me. Maybe that means the D750 will focus through thin walls??

Having said that, I'm getting ready to pick up another body and I am leaning toward the 750. The biggest difference to me is in the handling and high ISO performance.

The D750 is thinner overall but with a deeper grip. Man, it feels great in my medium to large hands. And I didn't get scientific with it, but high ISO noise in the shadows is noticeably better with the 750 vs the 610. That's important to me for when I shoot events without a flash. Still the 610 is no slouch in that department.

So, IMO, if you want the lightest, and most comfortable, the 750 may suit you. But, the 610 still feels good and shoot as well with lots of dynamic range and IQ. If you don't shoot at higher ISOs, the 610 is $500 cheaper too.

And as a side note, you mentioned the 85mm 1.8. I own that lens. I tested it against the 1.4 and I tried hard to find the difference, but most of the time could not. I still want the 1.4 , kinda like when people want a Mercedes to go from points A to B when a Chevy will do the same job. For now though, the 1.8 does its job well.

lol, now I don't know if I want to hunt you down and kill you or hug you - I was all set for the D750 but was worried about the cost, but if the D610 can do BiF or at least my kids scuttling around then it looks like I can save around £300 which would get me a 85 1.8 with the "spare" cash.

Now I'm going to have to do a load more research - thank you

Here are a couple BIF samples with the D610. The first is not a magazine shot, I know. But, it was a looooong shot and heavily-cropped, and on a completely overcast day. In fact, it started raining shortly after this shot. It was taken with the regular (but my semi-beloved) 70-300 VR. A better lens and a better photographer may have provided better results. The second was with the same D610 and 70-300, but much better conditions. Good light, and closer range. I'm sure the D750 is better, but is the D610 good enough???

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Here's a couple samples of those "kid action" shots - both with the D610. The first is with the Tamron 70-200, and the pool shot was shot wide open with the 85mm 1.8 you mentioned.

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Thanks so much for sharing those - it looks to me like its a very capable camera and you've done a great job too - the first is excellent, shame about that sky - that'd be my luck too, a classic shot like that and it has to be on a drab day!

Anything I should know, like each shot took a thousand bad ones or that it stabs you in the eye with a needle Okay perhaps not those, but are there any surprises you wish you'd known before you got one?

A lot of my shots take a bunch of bad to get one good, but that's no fault of the camera. It's very consistent and I know exactly what it will do and will not do. I shoot 100% manual except for what balance. I rely on auto white balance and the 610 gets it right 99% of the time. Like I mentioned before, I'm sure the D750 is better (as it should be) and has more bells and whistles, but the 610 has more bells and whistles than the old D700. I know several D700 shooters and I hear no complaints from any of them. A couple years from now something will come out that is better than the D750.

As far as quirks, nothing bad at all. I came from a Nikon D90, so everything was better. I think as photographers we all just get used to what our cameras have or don't have, then move on. For example, if I get the D750, the settings display screen on the top of the camera is smaller than the 610 to accommodate the thinner body. So, not as much info is displayed. I will not he able to look down and instantly see what focus mode I am in. I'll learn to live with that.

In case the OP might still see this, I picked up the D750. Sweet rig! Its AF for action/BIF is a little better. Low light focus is pretty much a wash to me. It handles beautifully and LOVES my Tammy 70-200. Its a little quirky with my Nikon 85mm though. IQ is outstanding, like with the D610. Feel free to shoot me a note if you have any specific questions.

I have not seen it mentioned, and i have no experience with Sony's, but what about the new A7rII? If the AF is really that good, you can use your Canon glass, and you get a light weight camera. Now, I doubt it will be BIF good, but maybe at least worth a quick look.

That all depends on real life results with it though once it comes out.

I moved from the 5D Mark II to the 5D mark III, then to a D600, and D610 and then to the D750.

The 600/610 offers a 90% IMHO of the 5D mark III for a lot lower of a price. Grip is a bit small and the 5D mark III is more comfortable for all day shoots. The D750 has great AF and almost as comfortable. But better DR and sensor tech. I really enjoyed it. I think the 50mm 1.8G and 85mm 1.8G are better than cannons' too YMMV.

I looked hard at the 6D vs the D600, and I sold everything cannon and went to the D600 to me it personally it really beats the 6D out some key features.

Good luck and happy shooting.

Well after all that and very very nearly going for the D610 after seeing such great shots I ended up with the D750 - a very capable camera indeed - thank you all for your help and I'm sorry I forgot to post back.

Hi, I moved from a Canon 70D to a Nikon D750.
In August all my Canon gear was stolen and so I was compelled to do that.
I was satisfied with the 70D but the D750 is better, especially sa regards high ISO, allowing me to shoot at night with no sort of a problem.
It has taken a little time to get used to the new Nikn menu, but that is a problem you can get over easily with little patience.
Happy Halloween,
Fabrizio

I moved from a 6D to an a7R, and then recently picked up a D750 for wildlife shots. The high ISO capability of the D750 is pretty great, but the 6D is no slouch either. The AF of the D750 is also great. I believe it's the same system as the D4/D4s. I primarily shot landscapes and manually focused with the 6D, so I can't really compare the two. My reason for leaving the 6D behind was that the DR of the Canon just wasn't on the same level as the Sony sensor.

I believe the AF in the D750 is a slight revision on that in the D4S (which was an upgrade on the AF in the D4). Now whether that revision was an upgrade in every sense of the word or some slight tweaking in one area and (being a cynic here) minor downgrade in another I couldn't tell you. I do know that if I had the spare cash I wouldn't let my cynicism on the AF system stop me from buying one to use alongside my D4.

I'm a full-time wedding & portrait photographer who works with a team of 20+ shooters, some who own Canon and some who own Nikon. I also have plenty of hobbies, from general photography to nature and wildlife, but mainly landscapes and nightscapes.

Simply put, I've lost count of the number of Canon shooters I've converted to the D750, and even Nikon D800 / D810 shooters who I've convinced to *downgrade* to the D750. It is, quite simply, the ultimate camera for quite a few different things. It's certainly not the ultimate action sports camera, though, and a 7D mk2 might be a better choice if you're really concerned about shooting speed and focus point spread. Despite being a cropped sensor, there are still plenty of lenses out there that can give you that gorgeous shallow depth that you're hoping for.

All in all, I think it comes down to how much you'll be shooting which types of subjects. BTW, the Nikon 135mm f/2 DC is indeed a killer lens, despite its age. Buy one used on Ebay or KEH for a bargain, and sell it at zero loss if a newer 135mm f/2 G VR or something comes out eventually.