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Jul 16, 2015 14:41 |  #1

So here's what i'm looking at...
I currently have a PC with 4x 2TB Hdds, Im hoping to add an SSD at some point but that won't be any time soon. I'll call the drives 1,2,3 and 4 just for ease.

Disk 1 - Basically everything, Operating system, Software, Photos, Music etc...
Disk 2 - Weekly backup of Disk 1 with Full system image captures
Disk 3 - In external Enclosure in Raid 0
Disk 3 - In external Enclosure in Raid 0

What i was thinking of doing was to have only this years photos on my Main drive and 'archive' the previous years photos onto the External Raid 0.

So now i have the question....
1. How to i organise the files on my drive?
2. How do i set this up in Lightroom?


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Jul 16, 2015 15:37 |  #2

Everyone has something slightly different that works for them. Here's how I have mine set up. It's on a Mac, but the concepts should still hold on a PC.

High level concepts:
1) Archive things based on what's "finished," not based solely on dates.
2) Your external RAID drive is fine as an archive, but NOT adequate as a backup - even if it's mirroring two drives, you need an additional copy somewhere else, preferably off-site or in the cloud.


On my local disk, inside Pictures I have a folder called "Current work." This holds all the photos that I've taken but not yet processed, culled, and delivered. When I've finished and delivered a set, I will delete all the rejects, and move the whole folder onto the network Archive drive.

In the "Current Work" folder, I have lots of folders, one for each set or event or subject matter. I name the folders with subject matter and date (YYYYMMDD) so that I can easily identify them. I generally don't bother making several layers of nested folders in my Current Work folder, there are never more than about 2 dozen folders so I can see it all at a glance.

For instance, the Cabaret show I shot a couple weeks ago, the folder is named "BBB Cabaret 20150626 Sci-Fi" and my family trip is in a folder named "Carter Vacation 2015 Callaway"

By including the date and subject matter in the folder name, I can pretty easily tell what's in there.
By using the YYYYMMDD format on the date, when you sort alphabetically it will also sort it chronologically.


On my network drive, I have a folder called "Archive" which holds all the photos I've worked in the past - not necessarily sorted by year, just everything that's considered "done." In my Archive, I have some high-level folder names, for instance: Family & Friends; Stage Shows; Wedding Clients; Professional Clients. When I'm done processing and delivering a set, I'll drag the set's whole folder from Current Work (local drive) into the appropriate folder in the Archive folder (network drive).

Important: If you drag folders from within Lightroom's directory tree in the Library module, Lightroom will know where you moved them - even if you move them to a different drive. If you instead drag them around in Finder or Explorer, Lightroom won't know where you moved them, and it will put a [?] on the images until you jump through the hoops to tell it where you moved things.

In my Archive drive, I can still pretty easily find things, since I named the folders and files appropriately.
For instance, in the "Stage Shows" folder I have three years' worth of photos from the Big Bang Boom Cabaret, named as follows:

BBB Cabaret 20150529 Vaudeville
BBB Cabaret 20150424 Oscars
BBB Cabaret 20150327 Cabaret Live!
BBB Cabaret 20150227 Orient Express
... and so on going back to 2012. I can tell at a glance what the theme of the show was and the date. In the same "Stage Shows" top folder, I have a similar structure for a few different troupes that I photograph, and lots of one-offs, also named and dated.

In my "Family and Friends" folder I have vacation pictures in folders like this:
Carter Vacation 2015 Callaway
Carter Vacation 2014 Florida Keys
Carter Vacation 2013 St Augustine
Carter Vacation 2012 Florida Keys


OK, so how do you do your initial setup?
Hopefully your stuff is already pretty well organized, at least by date. BEFORE putting it all into Lightroom for the first time, go through and refine it if you can: Rename folders and rearrange them into a structure that makes sense to you. If you're already in Lightroom, make sure to rename and rearrange folders within Lightroom's Library module - that way it doesn't lose track.

If your stuff is just a huge mess, you can use the Lightroom library tools to help organize - the easiest is to select your whole catalog (near the top of the folders pane on the left) and sort it by date. From there, you can create new folders and drag files into those folders. You can also use the filter to sort by things like camera type & body, lens type, and all sorts of other metadata. So if you want to keep the pictures you took on your 5D3 separated from the crap your brother took on his Nikon Coolpix, you can certainly use the filter to separate them out.

Without knowing how your stuff is organized now - or if you're even using Lightroom - I can't really give specifics on getting it sorted for the first time.

Adding new stuff:
When you have new photos, use Lightroom's IMPORT dialog to get them off the card and into your Current Work folder. Within the Import dialog, you can rename the files to something meaningful, create a new folder that's named appropriately and in the right location, and add keywords. I find this to be way more streamlined than copying stuff manually then adding it to the catalog - however, some people like to pre-cull using a tool like Photo Mechanic or Faststone, before even starting up Lightroom.

On file naming:
In addition to putting files in a folder/tree location that makes sense, I also like to rename upon import, to a file name that makes sense. Using the File Naming pane in the Import dialog, I rename my files to Event_YYYYMMDD_Sequenc​e.CR2
For instance, the Big Bang Boom Cabaret shows are named something like BBB_Cabaret_20150529_2​689.CR2
By naming the file with a meaningful name, I can guess the contents of the file simply by looking at the filename, without ever opening or viewing it.


On keywording:

Lightroom's keywording can be powerful, if you make the most of it. Some people do, I don't, I just use the most basic of keywords. Some people dump all their files into a single folder, and just use the Lightroom keywords to keep them sorted and organized. For instance, some wildlife shooters will put species names into their keywords, so whenever they need a photo of a Yellow Crested Nuthatch, they just keyword-filter the whole photo library, and voila! every photo they've ever tagged as Yellow Crested Nuthatch, right at the fingertips. Note that Lightroom will propagate the keywords to some external hosts such as Flickr.

On collections:
Similarly, some people use Collections to organize and sort. Collections are like ... folders and filters mashed together. You can group photos into all sorts of different collections, regardless of what folder (or drive!) the original image file is located in. You can manually add to collections, or use Smart Collections which automatically show photos based on criteria you select - date, keyword, filename, star rating, focal length, etc.

Umm, that's all I have time to type right now. Any specific questions?


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Jul 16, 2015 15:42 as a reply to  @ nathancarter's post |  #3

WOW! Thanks for that very consice reply!

I think i may have to re-read that a few times and then get cracking. I've never actually sat down and organised my LR Library so should be much better whatever i do! haha!
Thanks again for taking the time!

I'll get some screen shots so i can better explain how i currently have it organised Folder wise :-)


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Jul 16, 2015 23:50 |  #4

I'll try to make this short and to the point:)!

a) I have an "old-fashioned" system, no SSD, so:

b) 1 internal drive as the "C" "system" drive, OS, System, and major programs installed (plus temp stuff)

c) 2 internal drives that are RAID 0 together as a 1 TB "D" drive with some programs installed, and then this setup has my "current" photo captures in folders named for a particular shoot. I'll do my short term editing, keywords, etc. in the local "D" drive. My Lightroom catalog has been on the D drive but recently I've been working on a laptop and the catalog is on the C drive...and then:

d) I have an external drive that I then move the folders/images onto. They are placed in year-named parent folders. This is my "Library" drive, and has about 50,000 photos. It's efficient if you use Lightroom to move the folders/files, you can either drag and drop them in the Folders panel or use other methods to move them. If you don't use Lightroom, then the LR catalog "misplaces" the references to the folders/images and then you need to help LR to "find" them.

e) I have an external drive as a backup to all the above. It gets unplugged when not in use. This is important in case something "happens" to your computer, messing up all internal stuff. Also, I recently had to change residences and in the process my main workstation got messed up and I had both the Library drive and the Backup drive to fall back on!


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Jul 16, 2015 23:57 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #5

Ok, so I've decided As it's Payday a week on Monday i'm going to start moving some installs / files around. How Does this sound?

Disk 1 (120gb SSD) - OS and Applications.
Disk 2 (120gb SSD) - Photos Currently working on.
Disk 3 (2tb HDD) - Music, Games and Archived Photos (anything already edited and published) Organised by year.
Disk 4 (2tb HDD) - Backup of Disk 1,2 and 3.
Disk 5&6 (2x2tb HDD Raid 1) External Backup of Disk 4.

In Lightroom i'll add folders relating to where i want to move the files to and then drag and drop them to the right places.


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Jul 17, 2015 00:43 |  #6

Well, hey, if you can afford to take that leap, it sounds like you'll have all your bases covered!

If you spend much time here, you will see that there are a bunch of approaches, different preferences, but if you find what works for you, then more power to ya!

Something you can consider as a Lightroom user: while you are in the process of organizing your stuff, consider using the LR Collections and LR keywords -- they can be pretty quick to apply while you are "in the process" of organizing things, but if you put it off for, say, a few years, then going back and doing such stuff can be, well, interesting!

Another thought: when I Imported photos into LR I specifically create and import them into a "named" folder: the name typically has the date and a shoot "title". That way when I want to move the shoot into my Library drive I can just move the whole folder into the "year" parent folder without having to create a new folder in the parent/library drive!


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Jul 17, 2015 02:33 |  #7

urbanfreestyle wrote in post #17634197 (external link)
Disk 5&6 (2x2tb HDD Raid 1) External Backup of Disk 4.

Don't understand why you have these two disks in Raid 1. It is already a backup of a backup. Instead of making an other mirror you should use the full 4 TB to have a real backup (including incremental or older backup versions). Additionally, I would suggest to backup as close as possible to the original - e.g. Don't backup disk 4 to disk 5&6 but directly disks 1, 2 & 3.
In this way you have a mirror of 1, 2 & 3 on 4 and several backup versions on disks 5&6.

Backup Software: This link from a recent post might help: https://www.photograph​erstechsupport.com …review-for-photographers/ (external link)


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Jul 18, 2015 05:34 as a reply to  @ drmaxx's post |  #8

Thanks for all the advice, should I change it over to a Raid0 config?


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Jul 18, 2015 07:11 |  #9

Doesn't matter. Main goal is to have one large 4 TB drive. If Raid 0 is the easiest way for you to do that, then go for it. The speed gain is for this external set-up not really relevant and the danger with loosing a disk is not a main concern either.


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Jul 18, 2015 07:21 |  #10

Oh, and if you want to be really paranoid (like I am) you can go with an external HD that you store at an other site. E.g. I have a 2 TB external HD that I store at work and bring home every 2 to 3 weeks to make a backup. Alternatively, you also can have an external backup in the 'cloud'.


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Jul 19, 2015 15:58 as a reply to  @ drmaxx's post |  #11

Fair enough, the drives are in an enclosure that HAS to use raid 1 or 0. Its a pita. Lol! I may get more paranoid, the more photos I take


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