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Aug 01, 2015 11:39 |  #1

I recently purchased a mint condition Nikon 200 f/2 ED AI-S lens to pair up with my D800. As the name implies of course, this version is a manual focus only lens. In the coming weeks I'll be trying my hand at using the "Chubby" as it's been called on the Nikon D800 with a split focusing screen, as well as shots taken with and without a modified TC-16A adapter. This weekend will be dedicated to learning some manual focusing techniques.

These first shots I'll be posting are of the lens itself and one taken earlier this morning of myself and the wife. I already see that the images taken with the TC-16A adapter suffer image degradation. I'll be taking more photos without the adapter and they should be sharper.

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Aug 02, 2015 00:12 |  #4

Looks good


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Aug 02, 2015 19:22 |  #5

Thanks


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Aug 02, 2015 19:29 |  #6

A comparison of some of my other lens against the 200. All are jpgs sooc.

200 with TC-16A

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200 at f/2

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200 at f/2.8

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85G f1.8 @f1.8

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28-70 f2.8 @ 70mm and f2.8

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50G f1.4 @f1.4

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Aug 07, 2015 22:48 |  #7

Getting better at manual focusing. Shot at f/2.

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Sep 01, 2015 18:15 |  #8

Quick snapshot of my mother and daughter out in the garden with the two westies.

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Sep 19, 2015 18:14 |  #9

Practicing at f2.8

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Sep 19, 2015 20:57 |  #10

looking good. how are you finding manual focus?


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Sep 19, 2015 21:31 |  #11

When using a tripod, extremely easy even using the D800. Handheld shooting can be a challenge though and that's how these last pictures were all shot. I didn't feel comfortable trying to shoot at f2 without a tripod to help me hold nearly 10lbs of gear steady with such a thin depth of field.

The split screen along with the 3rd party magnifying eyepiece really make it quite easy to nail focus with a lens such as the 200 f2. I have to admit I'm looking at a few other manual focus lens as well due to how easy it's become to adjust to manual focus only lens. It really stokes your ego when you see a sharp image appear in the viewfinder while focusing manually.


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Sep 21, 2015 20:20 |  #12

I use this lens with my A7r, it's real nice, however the flare can get out of control fast. For the most part, it's not an issue.

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btw, the aperture rings on nikons annoy me, so easy to bump and stop down on accident. On one lens, I use a hair band to stiffen the aperture, and on the 200, I simply tape it stuck wide open @ F2. I simply do not stop it down.

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Sep 22, 2015 06:54 |  #13

Charlie wrote in post #17716627 (external link)
I use this lens with my A7r, it's real nice, however the flare can get out of control fast. For the most part, it's not an issue.

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btw, the aperture rings on nikons annoy me, so easy to bump and stop down on accident. On one lens, I use a hair band to stiffen the aperture, and on the 200, I simply tape it stuck wide open @ F2. I simply do not stop it down.

Great pics Charlie and nice to see I'm not the only one here with one of these lens. While I have gotten quite used to manual focusing the 200 f2 with the D800 I have been contemplating picking up one of the Sony mirrorless bodies to serve as a second body. Could you shed some light on what it's like to focus using the A7r paired with the 200 for instance? I have found the sweet spot on my D800 when manual focusing with that lens but I also am interested in hearing how a mirrorless system like the Sony performs when using such a narrow depth of field.

What I guess I'm getting to is I'm looking at picking up the sony/zeiss 135 f1.8 or f2 lens and a Sony body later this year and would like some more info on how well the Sony mirrorless bodies handle these type of lens while focusing.


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Sep 22, 2015 11:38 as a reply to  @ Thorrulz's post |  #14

it's like any fast lens on the A7r. Some people dig it, some cant use it, but in either case, it's considerably better than any DSLR. For instance, swimming: when I focus peak, I can see the focal plane, so when my kids I can follow my kids with the focal plane when they are completely submerged. It's actually quite easy when you get the hang of it.

I was shooting kids playing a large group running game this weekend (135F2) and it was a breeze tracking them. For portraits that are real tight, I may tap the zoom in to get the eyes in focus, but for full body, I set the peaking high enough so that the eyes twinkle when in focus. From what I recall of my friends D800 that live view was pretty terrible, so the A7x camera will be night and day.

the EVF will take a lot of patience to get used to, but after a year of use, I finally let go of canon DSLRs. I also shoot a lot of events, as I'm an event photographer for my kid's school, and I find that I technically dont need AF. I do bring some native glass to events, more for security, but lately, I've been leaving them home. My preferred everyday kit is like a 50/100 or 135F2 combo. I use the 100/135 often simply because the 200 can get awkward at times, and the 135 is pretty close to *look* (external link) of the 200. For a formal event (like weddings or christenings), I'll pull it out, but for performances, recognition ceremonies, not always. That's where the 135 comes to play. I do have a few 135's currently, the FD 135F2 and EF 135L. No question, the 135L is better, it has ED glass similar to the 200/2. Amazing lens, however a tad too large on the sony, which makes me opt for the FD 135F2. It has more CA in some instances, but it's a damn amazing lens in it's own right. I've played with 5 or so 135's and hard to find a bad one.

as for specific body, I'de get either the A7ii or A7rii if I were you. The IBIS turns the 200/2 into a 200/2 VR  :p, very

135 into 135IS.... damn amazing when shooting low light, which I do often.

IBIS is more important than the resolution, when I shoot events or handheld. I will shoot the 200/2 handheld, in fact, I do most of the time. The next time I will bring it out will likely be the christmas program, hopefully I'll have the A7rii by then. The IBIS body is a gamechanger for me. So much better consistency, and totally opens up the 85/100/135/200 for low light photography.


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Sep 22, 2015 15:16 |  #15

Thanks for the reply and suggestions on which of the a7 series bodies to look into buying. Definitely was looking at the ibis that the a7ii or the a7ii has after not using a tripod this past weekend with the 200 f2. While I was nailing focus at f2.8 without a problem, f2 and sharp with such a narrow dof certainly was difficult. I could see after loading pics into adobe photoshop that several of my pics suffered from shooting at to low of a shutter speed and had suffered from camera shake.

I agree that the live view on the D800 is terrible and used it once, the split screen though combined with the eyepiece magnifier I would strongly suggest to anyone looking to shoot using manual focus on a D800.


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